View Poll Results: What you'd like to see for Germanic countries

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  • Only greater economic cooperation

    11 8.94%
  • Only greater cultural exchange

    12 9.76%
  • Greater cultural exchange & economic cooperation

    38 30.89%
  • A Germanic Union without common currency

    10 8.13%
  • A Germanic Union with common currency

    8 6.50%
  • A common Germanic nation (unification)

    21 17.07%
  • None/Other

    23 18.70%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hevneren View Post
    All of these territories separately, you mean? Or together?
    Together. As three distinct regions of a greater confederation.


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    I think the situation is complicated when you combine economies. I picked the cultural exchange option.

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    Do you have any ideas on how to achieve this?
    Yes. More things like this...
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    And require community groups of kids to meet together for different activities...

    Teach culture, traditional values in school in the style of Roger Scruton or other traditional philosophers...

    I want different styles of art, architecture in different areas. Great examples are Quinlan Terry's classical buildings on the Thames or Luxemburg architect Leon Krier- "new urbanist" style. Painters following lines of Roger Kimball.

    I want a revival of classical music and community bands - great examples are Gorecki, Tavener, John Adams, Michael Torke. Henri Dutilleux Gottfried von Einem, Nicholas Maw, Ned Rorem and John Corigliano. Colin and David Matthesws, Oliver Knussen, David del Tredici, Robin Holloway.

    I like literature that critiques modern social values, and/or romanticizes high moral/spiritual values, like Michel Houellebecq, Ian McEwan. I also like the traditional philosophers and traditional poets.

    And less of the ugly modern architecture (like Le Corbusier) and art, less ugly spiritual degrading music, less cultural Marxist values (moral and cultural relativism), I want less radical individualism, more collective morality, more family values, .... a cultural renaissance.

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    Don't unify the Gemanic nations. You'd just have another United Kingdom, and that would be bad for the other folks of the countries. Heed this warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hevneren View Post
    Islamic immigration is lower in Denmark and Norway than in Germany or the Netherlands, and Denmark has one of the strictest immigration policies in Europe. I think only Finland and perhaps Switzerland have stricter immigration policies.
    Saracen Union, then - there, nice and inclusive. In any case, if its one group of people who have shown themselves to be completely untrustworthy in the preservation of culture and ethnic integrity, it's the Scandinavians in general and the Norwegians and Swedes particularly.

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    LOL @ Oreka, that Jodler is plain awesome, hahaha!

    And yes, I also support regional diversity, unity in diversity. Regional dialects, food, feasts, etc. just rock. It would be a shame if we lost it...

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    I'd like to see greater cultural and economic co-operation between Germanic nations.

    It is ad to see the Germanic nations not working together as well as they should.

    But I draw the line at a common currency or Germanic Federation. Our countries are similar but have their differences.

    Even with the Scandinavians who are very similar to each other the Kalmar Union broke up. And trying to unite England and Germany is never going to happen, nor is uniting Iceland with anybody.

    We need a Germanic Council based on the Nordic Council model - a co-operation organisation for cultural, economic, standards and infrastructure development.

    The average Scandinavian is feeling quite distanced from Germans, Britons and Austrians not only culturally but also socioeconomically and would most likely opt for an even tighter Nordic co-operation.
    A Finn doesn't really speak for Norwegians, Swedes nor Danes. They my like Finland but I doubt they'd unite with Finland let alone each other.

    Don't unify the Gemanic nations. You'd just have another United Kingdom, and that would be bad for the other folks of the countries. Heed this warning.
    Spot on. Another bickering union where the dominant nation/(s) get robbed by the others. This already happens to England in the UK.
    This also leads to some areas feeling abandoned by the government and subsequently whining about unfair treatment.

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    The more I am thinking of it.. the more attractive the idea becomes. But I am not sure about whether Britain would fit in such a Union. It should be something along the lines of the Nordic Council but with it's own elected parliament and mandatory referendums. And in the future maybe a customs union and currency union but that's something for the long term.

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    I could support a Scandinavian union if some form of union would be necessary, but not a Germanic union. I think a majority of Scandinavian peoples would be against such a union as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Motrhead Remember Me View Post
    The average Scandinavian is feeling quite distanced from Germans, Britons and Austrians not only culturally but also socioeconomically and would most likely opt for an even tighter Nordic co-operation.
    True

    But I'd say Germans and Austrian are even more distant than British and english speakers in general nowadays, as most young Scandinavians understand English but fewer do German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post

    But I'd say Germans and Austrian are even more distant than British and english speakers in general nowadays, as most young Scandinavians understand English but fewer do German.
    That's only because they don't learn to speak German. I think we should put more emphasis on learning German in our schools. Maybe a bit less on English.

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