Germanic unity

[The Lawspeaker]

Weeell what happens if one is fathered by one of those(well a Dane none of the ones you mentioned, in my case) & not an American citizen

Am I not entitled to use the term "Danish-Ameican"?...I don't anyways but what of it?

Then you are. Particularly if you hold two passports and speak Danish and English and know your way around two cultures like a native (particularly if you travel between Denmark and the U.S). But your son wouldn't be a Danish-American but an American.

[billErobreren]

Then you are. Particularly if you hold two passports and speak Danish and English and know your way around two cultures like a native. But your son wouldn't be a Danish-American but an American.

I do speak Danish(standard, which is weird considering the fact that he's from Skagen) suck at writing in it though(my damn father wanted me to learn it, good thing too, but we lost touch years ago) & with my living here I predict that my Danish may die in a matter of 10 years since it doesn't get much use, but luckily I have a shit ton of movies in Danish...I suppose it won't die as long as keep quoting their lines while still knowing what they say & make enough money to finally leave this dump so damn expensive to live there. don't get me wrong I love this place it's the people I can do without.

[The Lawspeaker]

I do speak Danish(standard, which is weird considering the fact that he's from Skagen) suck at writing in it though(my damn father wanted me to learn it, good thing too, but we lost touch years ago) & with my living here I predict that my Danish may die in a matter of 10 years since it doesn't get much use, but luckily I have a shit ton of movies in Danish...I suppose it won't die as long as keep quoting their lines while still knowing what they say & make enough money to finally leave this dump so damn expensive to live there

Then you are a Danish-American but that stops at you. Your children and grandchildren will be American as they have no direct ties to Denmark (your grandchildren much less as they would probably marry American and only speak English).

[billErobreren]

Then you are a Danish-American but that stops at you. Your children and grandchildren will be American as they have no direct ties to Denmark (your grandchildren much less as they would probably marry American and only speak English).

meh sounds fair...still don't use the term much though

[Pallantides]

Have I carried on about American culture? Really? Nope.

You definitely do have a rich culture. Claiming otherwise is pure ignorance.



And I'm no talking about "Jew" hollywod and that sort.

[rhiannon]

The thing is... that they aren't your homelands. You don't speak the language, nor do you know the culture. That's something that never ceases to amaze me about Americans: they call it their homelands while it isn't their homeland. We have completely different ties to our countries then you have.

When you walk in your walk in your homeland you are a foreigner and a stranger and you need someone to translate everything for you. I am sorry: but that's how it is. While we live here, are born and bred here and will die here. This is our homeland. America is your homeland: please don't forget that.

It is unfair of you, Civis, to go around telling me or my fellow Americans that we have no right or claim to our ancestral homelands. That shows extreme arrogance on your part. Europe as my ancestral homeland, is not the same as making the claim that Europe is my home. Never have I claimed it to be such, either.

Please do not forget that.

[rhiannon]

They should stop doing that. They aren't Dutch, or German, or English. They are American.

No, they shouldn't. My ancestors lived through the damned Black Plague right alongside yours My ancestors spent the greater part of human history living in Europe....again, right alongside yours. 300 years is but a drop in the bucket of time, relatively speaking.

Just because we refer to ourselves by our ancestries, doesn't mean we are in any way trying to detract from your status as a Dutchman.

[The Lawspeaker]

It is unfair of you, Civis, to go around telling me or my fellow Americans that we have no right or claim to our ancestral homelands. That shows extreme arrogance on your part. Europe as my ancestral homeland, is not the same as making the claim that Europe is my home. Never have I claimed it to be such, either.

Please do not forget that.

I think that since we live here that maybe we have more rights to determine who we consider European or not. I don't consider a Swedish/English/Norwegian/German/Dutch American to be Dutch in any way, shape or form.

Particularly if it doesn't speak a word of my tongue and comes along with romantic notions of walking in wooden shoes and living in a windmill (yes we know the types) and growing tulips. That's about as far as their romantic, misguided notions go.

I am sorry.. but that's what it is. Unless one of your parents was a native born European and unless you know the language and the culture as your own and you hold a passport I don't think you can call this your homeland. Sorry. Hell - a nice example: Hansje Brinker. An American fantasy. Complete and utter rubbish.

300 years is but a drop in the bucket of time, relatively speaking.

Not really.

[Siberyak]

[QUOTE=Civis Batavi;666395]I think that since we live here that maybe we have more rights to determine who we consider European or not. I don't consider a Swedish/English/Norwegian/German/Dutch American to be Dutch in any way, shape or form.

Particularly if it doesn't speak a word of my tongue and comes along with romantic notions of walking in wooden shoes and living in a windmill (yes we know the types) and growing tulips. That's about as far as their romantic, misguided notions go.

I am sorry.. but that's what it is. Unless one of your parents was a native born European and unless you know the language and the culture as your own and you hold a passport I don't think you can call this your homeland. Sorry.


Not really.[/QUOTE

I am sure you would rather see people of European descent back in Europe. Rather than Arabs Negros etc.

[rhiannon]

I think that since we live here that maybe we have more rights to determine who we consider European or not. I don't consider a Swedish/English/Norwegian/German/Dutch American to be Dutch in any way, shape or form.

Particularly if it doesn't speak a word of my tongue and comes along with romantic notions of walking in wooden shoes and living in a windmill (yes we know the types) and growing tulips. That's about as far as their romantic, misguided notions go.

I am sorry.. but that's what it is. Unless one of your parents was a native born European and unless you know the language and the culture as your own and you hold a passport I don't think you can call this your homeland. Sorry.

Ancestral homeland and homeland are not the same!!

For that matter, you refuse to call any person living in your country who DOES speak Dutch AND has lived there all their lives *Dutch* merely on the basis of their immigrant parentage! Even if they have assimilated fully into Dutch culture AND feel every bit as tied to it as you do....you have said time and time again in this forum that you refuse to acknowledge them at all.

It looks like you are trying to have it both ways.

My ancestors came from Europe. Without them, there would be no me. Please do not attempt to take the only ties I have to a land that I do value and hold dear. Can't say anything about other Americans on here, but I have been to Europe and have reasons for my appreciation of it.

Thank you.