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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Commies supported free education free healthcare no children work and 8 hours day before it could have been 18 hours no weekends so they always supported less hard work and now it evolved because productivity evolved and technology
    Commies had most retarted working structures.

    Let's give you an example.

    They made a 5 year plan of making a car production of let's say 100K cars.
    Afer a year they sold 20K and the demand was decreasing.

    Instead of making a different plan and reducing the production they just sticked to their plan and basically were wasting 80K cars per years.
    This was legit going on in Slovakia and not just car industry but in many other segments of the market.

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    Mortimer is right, we should focus on China. Thanks to Xi policies it will become the most prosperous country on earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I like hard smart work you misunderstood me my principles are less and more humane work for more money and against more brutale and harsh work for less money actually austria in that regard is a little socialist like scandinavia people who work hard for less are people in poor countries I think my ideas are also only possible if there is a world wide agreement only one country would be put down
    Please explain this smart hard work in several real life scenarios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I like hard smart work you misunderstood me my principles are less and more humane work for more money and against more brutale and harsh work for less money actually austria in that regard is a little socialist like scandinavia people who work hard for less are people in poor countries I think my ideas are also only possible if there is a world wide agreement only one country would be put down
    I agree with you there. You don't need to be ultra far left for that. But money for welfare, free housing etc unfortunately won't fall magically from the sky, especially if you want to reduce work hours even if the nation has an average IQ of 200.

    In Western countries 'lower' jobs are actually paid very well compared to the same jobs in Eastern countries and when you take in account standards of life. When someone from ex-Yugoslavia region or the rest of Balkans moves to Austria or Germany he is told to try not to work for the guy (businessman) who is from the Balkans. A German guy would give you say 2800€ and the Balkan guy would give 1800€ for doing the same job.

    I heard that in Canada manual jobs are extremely well paid. I heard Canadians respect those jobs since not many want to do them and because of that reason are paid very well. In Eastern countries and Balkans precisely because not many want to do them they are paid extremely low. You can see the difference in mentality. So, you living in a western country have nothing to be afraid of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    Commies had most retarted working structures.

    Let's give you an example.

    They made a 5 year plan of making a car production of let's say 100K cars.
    Afer a year they sold 20K and the demand was decreasing.

    Instead of making a different plan and reducing the production they just sticked to their plan and basically were wasting 80K cars per years.
    This was legit going on in Slovakia and not just car industry but in many other segments of the market.
    People till this day working in public sectors are some of the laziest on average with big question mark how they got the job, at least when it comes to eastern countries and the Balkans. There is not much incentive when people are on public tits. But when you work in a private sector there is no screwing around. That is why communism was bad. Communism would have been much more successful in western countries, but that is like given.

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    there was no free education, that's nonsense, more like free operating system full of commercials, or TA with it's sometimes weird ads, there was comunistic indoctrination following to educational system

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    Nobody should have more than 100k € in total net worth. Everything else should be used to sustain the lifes of every human being from every continent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    I support socialdemocracy too, but you should work. Welfare is a very good thing for ppl if they experience hard times but honestly you could work and earn money, pay your own bills and pay taxes to support that system. Austria has a better system than Germany but misusing is a problem in both countries.
    What is the difference between Austria and Germany.

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    "He who does not work, neither shall he eat" - early USSR slogan.

    I suspect that you want more or less fair starting opportunities for everyone and working social lifts and guarantees.
    Or do you just want to take everything from the rich and give it to the poor, knowing the working way of how to do it? You take risks, because with the current mobility of people and capital, in such a country very soon neither rich people nor their enterprises will remain - they will run away to their neighbors. Closed borders and nationalization of large means of production? I can't imagine this in 2021 yet.
    By the way, the opposite process is currently taking place - the rich rob (and indirectly kill) the poor, depriving them of their mobility with the help of pandemics. Liberal fascism as is.

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