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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    You either retarded or you've never been exposed to Marxist writings. Marxism goes well beyond economy, it's a broad critique of the Western capitalist society. All western academia is infested with Marxism and neo-Marxist doctrines.

    In academia, humanities generally have several departments where the over-arching doctrine is some form of marxism, be it gender studies, critical race theory, queer studies etc. These departments train the future generations of apparatchiks. It is now a de-facto requirement for every company to have in the board of directors a "diversity" officer, with a subordinated department that hires extreme left wing activists directly from school, with the sole to bully employees and management who dare to oppose left wing idiocies like "there's no men/women, gender has no biological basis", "children as young as kindergarten should be schooled into transgenderism", "USA is fundamentally and systemically racist", etc. This diversity officer position is no different than that of the party representative in the former communist enterprises. The West is step-by-step building a China-inspired surveillance corporato-communism.
    It is super clear you are getting your ideology from your usual suspects from Right-wing YouTube, since everything you just said is based on their conspiracy theory of a Neo-Marxist takeover of the academia. First of all Neo-Marxist tradition is not the one with which the Right is painting as this all empowering boogieman of our times, but it is strictly a reformist, 20th century school of economic thought. Identity politics on the other hand grew out of Second Wave Feminism in the late 20th century and was also quickly adopted by LGBT and anti-colonial, post-racial collectives later on and really caught on with 21st century Progressivism (Liberals, Social-Democrats). Marx in his original works barely even touched the subject of identity politics, but he mostly focused on class relations. But how would someone consuming the Ben Shapiros and Tucker Carlsons and the like have basic knowledge on even such 101 topics as Marxism and identity politics. It's truly embarrassing how little you know on basic things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    What is MPSZ? And Vona said these things 15 years ago, nowadays he is very pro EU.
    MPSZ=Fidesz-Magyar Polgári Szövetség
    “the right of peoples to self-determination”
    http://sciencenordic.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolfrenchguy View Post
    MPSZ=Fidesz-Magyar Polgári Szövetség
    Nobody use this term, to be honest it's the first i've heard about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    One comment from Finland.

    At Cold War time Social Democrats were basically in power in Finland. And also Central party. National Coalition party was opposite in opposition all the time until end of Sovjet Union (it was too ''western'', too right side ideas of economy). This was how far Russians allowed democracy to go in (''independent'') Finland. And Finns did not see wise to test that either. Still it was actually Social Democrats who feared the Communists (SKDL) the most. Perhaps so as Social Democrats lead the country (knew responsibilities). Perhaps so as they someway fight for same voters. Perhaps so as they fight power among of workers unions etc. So they actually tried to keep communists out of power. Why? Because they did not trust communists and they feared that communist could move Finland too close to Sovjet Union. So they actually worked much more willingly with Central party.

    Now one can say that there were not communists in Sovjet Union. At least in Finland it was exactly communists who adored that country and its systems. So maybe we did not have communists either? If so, then that put me thinking do we either have Social Democrats as some see those...
    Observe body language and see who Real King of Cold War








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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    Observe body language and see who Real King of Cold War







    Just that as he could stand vodka even more than Russians and he (as president) tingled (helpless) Finnairs stewardesses.
    Russians (men) probably like that idea as well ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Just that as he could stand vodka even more than Russians and he (as president) tingled (helpless) Finnairs stewardesses.
    Russians (men) probably like that idea as well ...
    This is what King of Sweden has to say about the Man

    https://www.iltalehti.fi/kuninkaalli...05092200128409

    Ruotsin kuningas SVT:n haastattelussa: Kekkonen piti huolen myös Ruotsin suhteista itänaapuriin

    Kekkonen valittiin Suomen presidentiksi vuonna 1956, kun taas Kaarle Kustaa kruunattiin Ruotsin kuninkaaksi syyskuussa 1973.

    - Hän antoi turvallisuuden tunteen ja hänellä oli ennen kaikkea hyvät suhteet Suomen naapureihin, ja antoisaa oli, että Kekkonen piti myös huolen Ruotsin suhteista itänaapuriin, kuningas kertoo SVT:n haastattelussa viitaten Venäjään.

    Kaarle Kustaa teki ensimmäisen valtiovierailunsa Suomeen vuonna 1974. Hänen mukaansa kuningasperhe kutsui presidenttiä setä Kekkoseksi.

    - Olin silloin vielä nuori ja 25 vuotta vallassa on pitkä aika, mutta hän kävi myös vierailulla perheemme luona, sekä iloisissa että ikävissä tilaisuuksissa. Opimme tuntemaan hänet, perheessämme kutsuimme häntä setä Kekkoseksi.


    King of Sweden in an interview with SVT: Kekkonen also took care of Sweden's relations with its eastern neighbor

    Kekkonen was elected President of Finland in 1956, while Charles Gustav was crowned King of Sweden in September 1973.

    - He gave a sense of security and above all had good relations with Finland's neighbors, and it was rewarding that Kekkonen also took care of Sweden's relations with its eastern neighbor, the king says in an interview with SVT, referring to Russia.

    Carl Gustaf made his first state visit to Finland in 1974. According to him, the royal family called the president Uncle Kekki.

    - I was still young at the time and 25 years in power is a long time, but he also visited our family, on both happy and unfortunate occasions. We got to know him, in our family we called him Uncle Kekkonen.
    LMAO the man you have been badmouthing forever, according to King of Sweden, is greatest man ever, and also handled Sweden's foreign policy with Soviet Union

    Once again I'm right as right can be. How do I do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    This is what King of Sweden has to say about the Man

    https://www.iltalehti.fi/kuninkaalli...05092200128409



    LMAO the man you have been badmouthing forever, according to King of Sweden, is greatest man ever, and also handled Sweden's foreign policy with Soviet Union

    Once again I'm right as right can be. How do I do it?
    Now what put you think I value king of Sweden very highly? If you do not know, he has had his scandals as well.
    I like Silvia more...


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    https://www.apu.fi/artikkelit/kaarle...suudentunnetta

    Carl Gustaf reveals that Urho Kekkonen was a mentor to the king: "He radiated a sense of security"

    Carl Gustaf says that the President of Finland was called Uncle Kekki, "Farbror-Kekki", in the royal family.

    Charles XVI Gustav lost his father, Prince Gustav Adolf (1906–1947), as a child. The father died in a tragic plane crash.

    Young Charles is said to have found a one-man model of Finland's charismatic president, Urho Kekkonen (1900–1986). A year ago, in a rare interview with the Finnish-language editorial board of the Swedish broadcaster SVT, Carl Gustav recalled his warm relationship with Kekkonen. The king said that the eighth president of Finland “radiated a sense of security” and taught him a lot.

    - He often visited here in Sweden on different occasions, including various occasions of our family, happy and sad. He became a character in a positive sense, and we called him Uncle Kekki in our family. It was not the president who came to the visit, but the “Farbror Kekki,” the king said in an interview.

    UKK introduced the prince to wilderness life

    During Kekkonen's 25-year presidency, Carl Gustaf had time to meet the President several times, first as a crown prince, then as a reigning king.

    Kekkonen diligently introduced the young Swedish prince to, among other things, wilderness life, and in 1970, for example, Carl Gustaf, then 24 years old, arrived in Lapland to ice fishing in the company of our 70-year-old head of state. According to the photos, the Crown Prince had a hand in plaster and too thin clothes on, but after the ice fishing trip, the duo were photographed relaxingly frying pancakes in open fire.

    Four years later, Carl Gustaf traveled to Finland for his first state visit as king after he had inherited the crown the previous year after the death of his grandfather, Gustav VI Adolf. Against him was again the familiar, warm-hearted Uncle Kekki, whose relations with Russia made an indelible impression on the young crown head in the world political situation marked by the Cold War.

    - He had incredibly good relations with your neighbors, good contacts with the Kremlin. He was able to use them to convey contacts, we here in Sweden also benefited from them. It was a mutual political exchange, very exciting, Carl Gustaf reminded SVT.

    Positive impact on state relations
    Kari Lumikero, MTV's news correspondent, who followed the events in the Swedish court for a long time, has estimated that the warm relationship between Kekkonen and Carl Gustaf also radiated positively to state relations.

    - In addition to the fact that the king liked Kekkonen very much, he took on a certain kind of good relations with Finland during the duo's joint hunting and fishing trips. It has survived all these years.

    The king himself told SVT that he had made state visits to Finland during our five presidents.

    - They are always interesting and contain joyful reunions. There are old acquaintances and friends who I have come to know in Finland for a long time.

    Now here's the interesting part, the man you hate so much, is also the main man behind your precious pakkoruotsi. He did it because temporal insanity, as he was banging and tingling some Swedish bird at the time:

    Kekkonen influenced the arrival of compulsory Swedish in Finnish schools
    During his schooling, Kekkonen did little to learn foreign languages, and in his high school diploma he had poor grades in Swedish, German, Russian and Latin. Born in the Grand Duchy of Russia, the young man opposed “forced Russia” apparently for political reasons typical of the time. The proponent of aitosuomaisuus (genuine Finnish) was not interested in the Swedish language either.

    Later, Kekkonen's aitosuomalaisuus diminished. He had to use Swedish when starting his career, and he was willing to improve his language skills. The president is said to have received private tuition in the 1950s and 1960s from Swedish-language journalist Anne-Marie Snellman. Kekkonen was also associated with Snellman in a romantic sense.

    Kekkonen certainly spoke Swedish with Carl Gustaf. Already in the 1960s, the President's statements influenced the fact that the Swedish language became a compulsory elementary school subject for everyone in Finland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    https://www.apu.fi/artikkelit/kaarle...suudentunnetta
    Carl Gustaf reveals that Urho Kekkonen was a mentor to the king: "He radiated a sense of security"

    Carl Gustaf says that the President of Finland was called Uncle Kekki, "Farbror-Kekki", in the royal family.

    Charles XVI Gustav lost his father, Prince Gustav Adolf (1906–1947), as a child. The father died in a tragic plane crash.

    Young Charles is said to have found a one-man model of Finland's charismatic president, Urho Kekkonen (1900–1986). A year ago, in a rare interview with the Finnish-language editorial board of the Swedish broadcaster SVT, Carl Gustav recalled his warm relationship with Kekkonen. The king said that the eighth president of Finland “radiated a sense of security” and taught him a lot.

    - He often visited here in Sweden on different occasions, including various occasions of our family, happy and sad. He became a character in a positive sense, and we called him Uncle Kekki in our family. It was not the president who came to the visit, but the “Farbror Kekki,” the king said in an interview.

    UKK introduced the prince to wilderness life

    During Kekkonen's 25-year presidency, Carl Gustaf had time to meet the President several times, first as a crown prince, then as a reigning king.

    Kekkonen diligently introduced the young Swedish prince to, among other things, wilderness life, and in 1970, for example, Carl Gustaf, then 24 years old, arrived in Lapland to ice fishing in the company of our 70-year-old head of state. According to the photos, the Crown Prince had a hand in plaster and too thin clothes on, but after the ice fishing trip, the duo were photographed relaxingly frying pancakes in open fire.

    Four years later, Carl Gustaf traveled to Finland for his first state visit as king after he had inherited the crown the previous year after the death of his grandfather, Gustav VI Adolf. Against him was again the familiar, warm-hearted Uncle Kekki, whose relations with Russia made an indelible impression on the young crown head in the world political situation marked by the Cold War.

    - He had incredibly good relations with your neighbors, good contacts with the Kremlin. He was able to use them to convey contacts, we here in Sweden also benefited from them. It was a mutual political exchange, very exciting, Carl Gustaf reminded SVT.

    Positive impact on state relations
    Kari Lumikero, MTV's news correspondent, who followed the events in the Swedish court for a long time, has estimated that the warm relationship between Kekkonen and Carl Gustaf also radiated positively to state relations.

    - In addition to the fact that the king liked Kekkonen very much, he took on a certain kind of good relations with Finland during the duo's joint hunting and fishing trips. It has survived all these years.

    The king himself told SVT that he had made state visits to Finland during our five presidents.

    - They are always interesting and contain joyful reunions. There are old acquaintances and friends who I have come to know in Finland for a long time.

    Now here's the interesting part, the man you hate so much, is also the main man behind your precious pakkoruotsi. He did it because temporal insanity, as he was banging and tingling some Swedish bird at the time:
    Kekkonen influenced the arrival of compulsory Swedish in Finnish schools
    During his schooling, Kekkonen did little to learn foreign languages, and in his high school diploma he had poor grades in Swedish, German, Russian and Latin. Born in the Grand Duchy of Russia, the young man opposed “forced Russia” apparently for political reasons typical of the time. The proponent of aitosuomaisuus (genuine Finnish) was not interested in the Swedish language either.

    Later, Kekkonen's aitosuomalaisuus diminished. He had to use Swedish when starting his career, and he was willing to improve his language skills. The president is said to have received private tuition in the 1950s and 1960s from Swedish-language journalist Anne-Marie Snellman. Kekkonen was also associated with Snellman in a romantic sense.

    Kekkonen certainly spoke Swedish with Carl Gustaf. Already in the 1960s, the President's statements influenced the fact that the Swedish language became a compulsory elementary school subject for everyone in Finland.
    And? Why do you not tell that 1980's - 1990's Carl Gustav spent time in striptease clubs (there have been photos with him and naked women).
    Or that he had affair with another woman (Camilla Henemark). Or his weakness to all kinds of gambles.

    And what comes to Kekkonen? Even more rotten person (election 1973).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    And? Why do you not tell that 1980's - 1990's Carl Gustav spent time in striptease clubs (there have been photos with him and naked women).
    Or that he had affair with another woman (Camilla Henemark). Or his weakness to all kinds of gambles.

    And what comes to Kekkonen? Even more rotten person (election 1973).
    You seem put high emphasis on personal failings when evaluating politicians. I now imagine some guy whose political decisions made life of millions miserable, but lived life a saint-monk -- so just amazing dude really.

    Nothing horrible happend 73.

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