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Thread: Péter Márki-Zay will be the opponent of Orbán in the 2022 parliamentary election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Economy policy (right or left, free or controlled) is one thing. EU's immigration policy another. But do you think that there has been risks/problems with democratic principles (inside of Hungary) ... like who controls media, what can be said etc? As that is the biggest issue criticized about Orban in the west (he will try to silent opposition). Would not be first time in ''Eastern Europe''. Not economy politic, or opinions against EU.

    1.) So has that been problem or not?

    2.) Will there be changes on that or not?
    Check this thread about the hungarian media situation, i linked tons of sources and numbers:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ony-in-Hungary
    The western leftist newpapers are lying about Hungary. There is no problem with human rights in Hungary, the problem is the huge corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Check this thread about the hungarian media situation, i linked tons of sources and numbers:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ony-in-Hungary
    The western leftist newpapers are lying about Hungary. There is no problem with human rights in Hungary, the problem is the huge corruption.
    I know your opinion about this; we have once talked about this ).

    I just would like to hear other Hungarians opinions as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    I know your opinion about this; we have once talked about this ).

    I just would like to hear other Hungarians opinions as well.
    The hard facts, proved by tons of source is more valid than a personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    The hard facts, proved by tons of source is more valid than a personal opinion.
    Of course human rights will include/concern much more topics than just how well/easily opposition will get their voices said & hear. The latter one is just one main principle of democratic system.

    If the problem is corruption ... then I have to say that changing person A to person B will hardly help enough. Sorry to be pessimistic. But just as the system around will still stay as it has been. The non written rules will stay like they have been. People/citizens will stay like they have been (what is allowed, right or wrong). To get away from all that (in one night) ... you should change Hungarian people from leaders to normal citizens ).
    Or other way ... this is decades, even several decades process ... a long process where all of you should want this. Not only you (normal people, voters) but also those who will get into leading positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Of course human rights will include/concern much more topics than just how well/easily opposition will get their voices said & hear. The latter one is just one main principle of democratic system.

    If the problem is corruption ... then I have to say that changing person A to person B will hardly help enough. Sorry to be pessimistic. But just as the system around will still stay as it has been. The non written rules will stay like they have been. People/citizens will stay like they have been (what is allowed, right or wrong). To get away from all that (in one night) ... you should change Hungarian people from leaders to normal citizens ).
    Or other way ... this is decades, even several decades process ... a long process where all of you should want this. Not only you (normal people, voters) but also those who will get into leading positions.
    Fact: Márki-Zay became famous because he defeated the Fidesz in Hódmezővásárhely and he did almost his every election promise as major, so im optimist.
    The main things what i want from politicians: minimum taxes, economic liberalism, free market, and human rights. Orbán guarantee that, but Márki-Zay too. The good thing is the hungarian Left and their crazy socialist ideas are almost completely broken, even the most of opposition voters are conservative/centralist not leftist.

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    Hogy őszinte legyek, Én is örülök Márki-Zay Péter győzelmének! Rá szavaztam!

    Rendszert szeretnék váltani és rohadtul elegem van a magyar politika Orbán-Gyurcsány bipolaritásából, így végképp nem Feri bácsi párjának, Klári néninek drukkoltam. Sok dolog nem tetszik a NER-rendszerébe, de a 2010 előtti korszak se volt egy lányálom. Szemkilövetés, tönkre vágott gazdaság, valamint akkor is ment a korrupció, akárcsak most.

    Nem tetszik nekem a Fidesz Gyurcsányozó retorikája, de egyetértek azzal, hogy nem szabad visszatérnie ennek a rémes korszaknak! Márki-Zay tovább folytatná Orbán politikájából a pozitív elemeket, de a negatívumokkal (mint a gyűlöletkeltő, populista retorika, valamint a horribilismértékű korrupció, stb.) felhagyna.

    Hajrá Márki-Zay! Legyen 2022 a Te éved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Fact: Márki-Zay became famous because he defeated the Fidesz in Hódmezővásárhely and he did almost his every election promise as major, so im optimist.
    The main things what i want from politicians: minimum taxes, economic liberalism, free market, and human rights. Orbán guarantee that, but Márki-Zay too. The good thing is the hungarian Left and their crazy socialist ideas are almost completely broken, even the most of opposition voters are conservative/centralist not leftist.
    Well, I hope you'll get what your're looking for and I would have been wrong.

    Estonia (closely to Nordic countries) is good example. It is very US bases country. Very different vs Finland (for example). If we just look economical ideas. As they got their independence back 90's they left on that road. I know it has been hard for some ... weak people (maximum capitalism) and excellent for much less people (becoming very rich). BUT yes .... the country has developed. If they would have chosen very leftist policy (or ideas of Nordic countries ... all should have rights to good life) ... I doubt they would have gotten as far in this same 30 years time. They have done better than Latvia or Lithuania as well. Of course we should not forget help of EU money either. Still (just my thoughts) in some point more leftist arguments might rise among of them (hand by hand as standard of livings rises). Already so today, even as those have not yet had any influences their governments or political lines,ideas, visions. Cold capitalism is hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Cold capitalism is hard way.
    American capitalism is one of the best thing what happened in the world, i love it because if you are enough hard worker you can reach the sky, there are no limits. This song can be the anthem of capitalism, this music inspires me very much


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    American capitalism is one of the best thing what happened in the world, i love it because if you are enough hard worker you can reach the sky, there are no limits. This song can be the anthem of capitalism, this music inspires me very much

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/mini...-us-state.html
    What is your opinion about this?

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