Pedro Sanchez vows to ban prostitution

[alnortedelsur]

Fuck Pedro Sanchez! Instead of wanting to ban prostitution (which only will lead to worst conditions for prostitutes, because prostitution won't dissappear but continue underground and illegally) he should worry more about uncontrolled immigration to Spain from Africa and other third world people, and to stop independentism.

Oh WAIT! I forgot he doesn't give a fuck if Spain gets dismembered as long as he gets reelected, and as good "new age" leftist, he is in favor of massive scummy immigration, since they are potential future socialist's voters.

With each new I read about him, I hate him more and more!

[Sebastianus Rex]

Irrelevant anyway, prostitution won't cease to exist, there are many forms of doing it, many women/university students receive men in their apartments and nobody forced them to, it's not only mafias far from it, many women prostitute themselves because they make a lot of money and many even like it... plenty of nymphos and tik tok sluts that are prostituting themselves on social network s also. It's degrading but it's the unfortunate reality of human nature.

But if you ask me, it's way better to legalized it like any other profession and have some kind of control (social security payments, taxes, medical inspections etc) than to prohibit, pretend it doesn't exist and let the women even more vulnerable to pimps and mafias. Prostitution is never going to end, as old as the World...so deal with it.

[Harkonnen]

You watch too much TV. The vast majority of women would not pay for sex in a pink fit.

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[Aldaris]

Irrelevant anyway, prostitution won't cease to exist, there are many forms of doing it, many women/university students receive men in their apartments and nobody forced them to, it's not only mafias far from it, many women prostitute themselves because they make a lot of money and many even like it... plenty of nymphos and tik tok sluts that are prostituting themselves on social network s also. It's degrading but it's the unfortunate reality of human nature.

But if you ask me, it's way better to legalized it like any other profession and have some kind of control (social security payments, taxes, medical inspections etc) than to prohibit, pretend it doesn't exist and let the women even more vulnerable to pimps and mafias. Prostitution is never going to end, as old as the World...so deal with it.

The sort of 'It will happen anyway' argument you put right there is weak. You don't do that in case of other crimes - I think we can both agree that, say thievery, should be out of the law despite it's happening somewhere out there right now. But I see this special pleading for prostitution from time to time. Yes, the ban won't make it disappear altogether, nobody is that naive. But under the right circumstances, it will help the cause by making the issue less prevalent. And that's at least a step forward.

[alnortedelsur]

The sort of 'It will happen anyway' argument you put right there is weak. You don't do that in case of other crimes - I think we can both agree that, say thievery, should be out of the law despite it's happening somewhere out there right now. But I see this special pleading for prostitution from time to time. Yes, the ban won't make it disappear altogether, nobody is that naive. But under the right circumstances, it will help the cause by making the issue less prevalent. And that's at least a step forward.

Making those felonies/crimes illegal don't make anybody's life worse, while making prostitution illegal, makes prostitute's life worse. That's the difference.

There are prostitutes/scorts who do it because they want, nobody forced them into it. What should be prosecuted is forced prostitution, including prostituting minors. Other than that, they should let people be, which means not meddling in when women do it because they want/chose it. Laws are not supposed to meddle into moral issues, like when somebody decides by their own to sell their own body. We are not in the XIX century or earlier.

[Teutone]

That things will keep happening after they are made a crime goes for everything, so if this is an argument, you are anarchists.

Society gotta set moral standarts and I prefer whores and people that go to them, living in fear and have the potential chance of getting to jail over legalization.

Noone claims there wont be no prostitution after it was banned, just like there is still killing and rape even tho its banned.

Its about to wipe out degenerate elements harming society out of the public.

[Aldaris]

Making those felonies/crimes illegal don't make anybody's life worse, while making prostitution illegal, makes prostitute's life worse. That's the difference.

Morality isn't always about making anybody's life worse/better. I knew a gravedigger, who, once he could, used to snatch all the jewelery from the dead body and had good weekend in the pub. Technically noone got hurt, but we would both agree that it's not a moral thing to do. Morality has some honor element in it.

There are prostitutes/scorts who do it because they want, nobody forced them into it. What should be prosecuted is forced prostitution, including prostituting minors.

Just because they want it is not an excuse, alnorte. See above. A technically victimless crime is a crime nonetheless. I find both aborrent.

Laws are not supposed to meddle into moral issues, like when somebody decides by their own to sell their own body. We are not in the XIX century or earlier.

Laws ARE supposed to meddle into moral issues, that's the whole point of them. Otherwise there'd be no need of even having them.

[Cristiano viejo]

The sort of 'It will happen anyway' argument you put right there is weak. You don't do that in case of other crimes - I think we can both agree that, say thievery, should be out of the law despite it's happening somewhere out there right now. But I see this special pleading for prostitution from time to time. Yes, the ban won't make it disappear altogether, nobody is that naive. But under the right circumstances, it will help the cause by making the issue less prevalent. And that's at least a step forward.

But dont be naive. PSOE just does this to cheat their voters, nothing else, in its fight against machismo
They know perfectly prostitution will not be abolished.

[alnortedelsur]

That things will keep happening after they are made a crime goes for everything, so if this is an argument, you are anarchists.

Society gotta set moral standarts and I prefer whores and people that go to them, living in fear and have the potential chance of getting to jail over legalization.

Noone claims there wont be no prostitution after it was banned, just like there is still killing and rape even tho its banned.

Its about to wipe out degenerate elements harming society out of the public.

Why do you talk like if all men who pay for prostitutes are degenerated like if they were pedophiles or something like that? Around a third of the Spanish male population has paid for prostitutes. Are they all degenerated? NO. Many of them are decent working men who for several reasons cannot cover their need to get laid, either because they have no much time (for work reasons or whatever) to quickly find a date, or just shy men who don't have it easy to get a date with women and need some feminine contact. In a way prostitutes play a social function when they satisfy those needs, and for that reason they deserve more respect as human beings, and not be seen as scum by society.

I'm not an anarchist. I am against things that are REALLY degenerative for societies, like uncontrolled third world immigration, gay marriage and adoption (not that being gay should be prosecuted, but is an abnormality of a tiny minority of the populace, that should not be scrubbed like "normal" in the face of the majority of society that is not into it), pedophilia, all the SJW shit some want to impose today on children since they are very little, to corrupt their very young minds with shit like gender theory, homosexualism, transexualism, critical race theory, and all that shit that go against family, the concept of nation, and traditional social values.

Prostitution is a mostly hetero thing (if we exclude gay prostitution) that has existed always, since thousands of years, even in the very nationalistic Nazi Germany. Why is that supposed to be harmful for society that some women (as long as they do under their own free will) offer sex for money to cover the demand of men in need, who don't have it easy to get laid for several reasons? It should not be harmful for society as long as it is managed with some discretion, like not allowing prostitutes to offer their services everywhere in the street,(even close to schools), but only in brothels or some specific red light districts, that the rule of law makes sure that only women who do it by their own choice are the ones available to offer those services, outlawing their exploitation by mafias, etc.

The people who really deserve to live in fear and have the potential chance of getting to jail as you say, are those mafias who trap women into prostitution under deceit, and force them to prostitution against their will, but not prostitutes who do it by their own choice, nor those many normal men who are not pedophiles nor degenerates, but just have a need to get laid, or just to get some feminine contact, and are willing to pay for those prostitutes.

[alnortedelsur]

Morality isn't always about making anybody's life worse/better. I knew a gravedigger, who, once he could, used to snatch all the jewelery from the dead body and had good weekend in the pub. Technically noone got hurt, but we would both agree that it's not a moral thing to do. Morality has some honor element in it.



Just because they want it is not an excuse, alnorte. See above. A technically victimless crime is a crime nonetheless. I find both aborrent.



Laws ARE supposed to meddle into moral issues, that's the whole point of them. Otherwise there'd be no need of even having them.

Laws are supposed to meddle into moral issues only up to some extent, as long as it doesn't meddle into the sexual liberty of people, like when an adult woman, by her free will, decides to offer sex services just because she likes sex, or because she wants quick money or whatever, or like when some men, for several reasons, don't have it easy to get a date to get laid, or just to have feminine contact, and are willing to pay for sex or company to those women who freely chose to offer it. That might sound immoral, but they aren't harming anybody else. Law should leave them alone. Is not anybody's else freaking business.

Your weird example is not the same, because the gravedigger is acting against the will of the families of the dead people, who want the bodies of their relatives to be let alone and respected. Is not the same.

Also, I find it hypocritical to consider prostitution immoral and banning it, but not pornography, which is even a more immoral form of prostitution. People get paid for having sex, but not even for a social function like covering the needs of men who need feminine contact, like the regular prostitution does, but to sell sex like an spectacle to large young audiences, and in many cases not only with normal heterosexual sex, but also with aberrations like coprophilia , torture/trampling, etc.

Pornography is way more immoral and damaging for society than regular prostitution.

You know that we agree on many many things regarding immigration, being anti new left conservatives, defending Iberians against trolling, etc, but in this issue I respectfully disagree with you. I know I won't make you change your mind on this issue, but you wont make me change my mind either. So lets agree to disagree