Will Whites really be a minority in the USA by the year 2050?

[Anglo-Celtic]

What kind of answer is that? It's obvious the Irish Slave stuff is BS. It is revisionist history that only started the last few decades.

We're both familiar with Baltimore, which is just one example of slavery. What happened there? Irish people were kidnapped and enslaved by mostly Muslim pirates. What did Cromwell do?

He kidnapped and enslaved Irish people and other people. Like the Muslim pirates, he put them on ships to their destinations. They were used as forced labor. How is that not slavery?

I think that the slavery is exaggerated. That aside, there definitely were Irish slaves in the New World *and* the Old World. There's little to no controversy about the latter because leftist nitwits (like the SPLC) can't attack people as racists as they assume that people are simply trying to downplay the evil Black slave trade. Just like the trans social engineering in (political) science, this is an attack on historical facts that aren't seen as PC, and the truth resides somewhere between both extremes.

[Richmondbread]

We're both familiar with Baltimore, which is just one example of slavery. What happened there? Irish people were kidnapped and enslaved by mostly Muslim pirates. What did Cromwell do?

He kidnapped and enslaved Irish people and other people. Like the Muslim pirates, he put them on ships to their destinations. They were used as forced labor. How is that not slavery?

I think that the slavery is exaggerated. That aside, there definitely were Irish slaves in the New World *and* the Old World. There's little to no controversy about the latter because leftist nitwits (like the SPLC) can't attack people as racists as they assume that people are simply trying to downplay the evil Black slave trade. Just like the trans social engineering in (political) science, this is an attack on historical facts that aren't seen as PC, and the truth resides somewhere between both extremes.

The Irish immigrants in America were treated worse than African slaves in many cases. In the US, they may not have experienced chattle slavery, but they did jobs that many slaves were not allowed to because it was thought to be too dangerous for them. So the Irish built a canal here in my hometown of Richmond, Virginia- hard labor and hard work for almost no pay. And they did it. And the African slaves did not because the African slaves were thought above the Irish- at least this crop of Irish. There were also lace curtain Irish and others who came earlier . But Irish were treated like dogs here.

[Grace O'Malley]

Liberalism is truly a disease of the mind. Ireland has gone to pot anyway now that they sanction abortion and homo marriage.

They still have the lowest abortion and divorce rates in Europe and far less abortions and divorces compared to the US. The Irish still are very strong on family values.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Liberalism is truly a disease of the mind. Ireland has gone to pot anyway now that they sanction abortion and homo marriage.

All is not lost. There are still rebellious Irishmen, like Computing Forever who sees through the mask cult that invaded Australia.

[Richmondbread]

They still have the lowest abortion and divorce rates in Europe and far less abortions and divorces compared to the US. The Irish still are very strong on family values.

I had great respect for the Irish when they stuck to their conservatism. They now are following the status quo. Why would anyone want "gay rights" . We all know it is the road that leads to pedophilia. My Tyrone, Mayo, and County Cork ancestors are rolling in their graves.

[Grace O'Malley]

We're both familiar with Baltimore, which is just one example of slavery. What happened there? Irish people were kidnapped and enslaved by mostly Muslim pirates. What did Cromwell do?

He kidnapped and enslaved Irish people and other people. Like the Muslim pirates, he put them on ships to their destinations. They were used as forced labor. How is that not slavery?

I think that the slavery is exaggerated. That aside, there definitely were Irish slaves in the New World *and* the Old World. There's little to no controversy about the latter because leftist nitwits (like the SPLC) can't attack people as racists as they assume that people are simply trying to downplay the evil Black slave trade. Just like the trans social engineering in (political) science, this is an attack on historical facts that aren't seen as PC, and the truth resides somewhere between both extremes.

You have to be clear though and admit the Irish were not chattel slaves which is what these new memes and articles are suggesting. In fact they are using outright lies. It is anti-historical and does a disservice to Irish people's history. Irish history can stand on it's own without this sort of revisionist nonsense.

[Anglo-Celtic]

The Irish immigrants in America were treated worse than African slaves in many cases. In the US, they may not have experienced chattle slavery, but they did jobs that many slaves were not allowed to because it was thought to be too dangerous for them. So the Irish built a canal here in my hometown of Richmond, Virginia- hard labor and hard work for almost no pay. And they did it. And the African slaves did not because the African slaves were thought above the Irish- at least this crop of Irish. There were also lace curtain Irish and others who came earlier . But Irish were treated like dogs here.

You're right about that. It's no disgrace or shame. They overcame the odds. Some of them tamed the frontier, but they're ignored by people who act like no Irish were here before the 1840s. SMH

I think that the slavery is exaggerated, but it existed. Indentured servitude and slavery were distinctions with no difference at times. They often added more time to their servants' terms because of (fill in the blank) so that they became "lifetime servants". Also, many indeed were used as forced labor.

[Richmondbread]

The Irish were divided by class moreso than others. If you were lace curtain Irish you were fine. But the "shanty" were met with disdain by both Americans and Anglos, in general.

[Anglo-Celtic]

You have to be clear though and admit the Irish were not chattel slaves which is what these new memes and articles are suggesting. In fact they are using outright lies. It is anti-historical and does a disservice to Irish people's history. Irish history can stand on it's own without this sort of revisionist nonsense.

Some were chattel slaves. I'm not saying that it was as widespread as it's portrayed by some revisionists, but it's not helpful to sweep it under the historical rug as if it never happened. It seems like some people, on both sides of the debate, have ulterior motives. They also confuse de facto and de jure when it comes to this subject.

[Creoda]

We're both familiar with Baltimore, which is just one example of slavery. What happened there? Irish people were kidnapped and enslaved by mostly Muslim pirates.

It's certainly true that Barbary Pirates were kidnapping Whites from the coasts of Europe to sell into Slavery, including from Britain and Ireland, even into the 1800s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

Pirate raids for the acquisition of slaves occurred in towns and villages on the African Atlantic seaboard, as well as in Europe. Reports of Barbary raids and kidnappings of those in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, England, Netherlands, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and as far north as Iceland exist from between the 16th to the 19th centuries. It is estimated that between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by pirates and sold as slaves in Tunis, Algiers and Tripoli during this time period. The slave trade in Europeans in other parts of the Mediterranean is not included in this estimation.[21]

Famous accounts of Barbary slave raids include a mention in the diary of Samuel Pepys and a raid on the coastal village of Baltimore, Ireland, during which pirates left with the entire populace of the settlement. The attack was led by a Dutch captain, Jan Janszoon van Haarlem, also known as Murad Reis the Younger. Janszoon also led the 1627 raid on Iceland. Such raids in the Mediterranean were so frequent and devastating that the coastline between Venice and Málaga[22] suffered widespread depopulation, and settlement there was discouraged. In fact, it was said that "there was no one left to capture any longer."[19]

But like the words racist or 'hate', leftists have effectively redefined slavery as only being allowed to refer to that perpetrated by whites upon non-whites.