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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    His argumentation is really weak and he clearly doesn't know much about the historical context in which such texts were written, all the stylistic device, symbolism, etc Even the early fathers knew it shouldn't be interpreted literally lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alazair View Post
    His argumentation is really weak and he clearly doesn't know much about the historical context in which such texts were written, all the stylistic device, symbolism, etc Even the early fathers knew it shouldn't be interpreted literally lol
    Were the Hebrews living in captivity in Egypt also symbolism?

    Was the parting of the Red Sea also symbolism?

    Was Moses symbolism?

    Was the conquest of Canaan symbolism?

    I ask because all the above can be proven to be false through historical records (and lack of) as well as through archaeology.

    We have events that are stated to have existed in a religious book that never happened. Never mind the silly shit like giants walking around and talking donkeys.
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    I have a feeling that many here will dislike atheism because they link it to a certain progressive leftist ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    Atheists always want to and need to and try to and struggle to and do anything employing all possible measures to convince the others, to convince people constitutes 99% of their motivation behind all their lives, 1% is made up from trying to convince themselves in their own atheism by the achievement in convincing the others; 99% motivation for nonatheist people today is having to evade/fight the harassments from communism and other kinds of atheists, 1% left is used to concentrate on the small peace left.(a modern day situation). I do not claim to believe in any God, I just do not get atheism(bored to death) and their hard-peddling facts.
    bullshit, I am an Atheist and most Atheists I know don't try to convince anyone. for example living in a supposedly very religious country like Romania you do get a weird look from most when they hear you don't want to baptize your child or you don't agree with the Orthodox Church being sponsored by the state (i.e. our tax money etc), and this is increasingly frustrating with age. actually at least in Romania and other religious nations it's opposite to what you say, it's the religious ones attacking your ideas and trying to "bring you to your senses" in terms of religious beliefs when they hear you're an Atheist. if each is free to believe whatever, then religions should fund themselves, especially in the countries with state official religions that get billions of dollars out of tax money, money that could be used to invest in education and healthcare better than paying priests and funding monasteries and churches. in Romania it gets to a ridiculous number of churches, like one church every few streets. and btw my wife is deeply religious, from an Orthodox conservative faction, and neither of us is trying to convince the other of anything, she goes to church, I don't and we respect each other's stance on religion, as this is in the end a very personal matter and the others or the state shouldn't interfere to impose anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    Truly, I am not against atheism but autocratic atheism which oppresses dozen of billions of people and yet some people still want to apologize for this.
    People should be free to believe and think.
    I understand your point there, but the last time I looked the world population is 7 billion, not dozen of billions. Of course the world population is dangerously increasing rapidly, but not that fast.

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