Ask Celestia anything

[Richmondbread]

Get your hearing checked. If your vision's better, you'll see that Adele is hot now, and she looks a bit like Kiera Knightley in certain angles and lighting (from what I saw).

Adeles caterwauling can be used to keep pests away, so she is useful for something.

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[Anglo-Celtic]

Someone born in 1969 would be core Gen X. 1980s teens , MTV generation. I was born in 1979 and considered the very end of Gen X. I was a small child in the 1980s and was using a computer in 1st grade.

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We'll just call you a Millennial. Generation X doesn't want you.

[Celestia]

Here's one for you. It fits the '70s singer-songwriter vibe.

Bob Dylan or Simon & Garfunkle?
Carole King or James Taylor?
Jim Croce or Gordon Lightfoot?
Cat Stevens or Al Stewart?
Harry Chapin or Don McClean?
John Denver or William Shatner?

Haha I’ll be straight up. This isn’t really my genre so I haven’t heard much from these guys.

Simon & Garfunkel
James Taylor
Gordon Lightfoot
The rest I’ve only heard maybe one song from them.

[capocannoniere]

Same. I only like to listen Wu-Tang Clan the rest is meh to me. An entirely "gringo" genre if you ask me. But due to general culture I know the basics. But then again, I think your use of "Black music" is a little too limited in this case, maybe you mean contemporary black music. Marvin Gaye is "black music" too IMO and I really enjoy that.

I think a white guy from a rural immigrant colony (or really most non-globalized "white" latin american) is spiritually detached from anything composed in a Black American neighborhood, that's what I mean, contemporary black music especially.
I like some songs from Gaye and am a big fan of the Brazilian Soul singer Tim Maia. But it's as if a Black guy listened to those gaucho songs talking about horses and cattle farming.

[BakersfieldChimp]

I’m impressed that you knew the ones that you mentioned

When you have a chance listen to this and let me know what you think.


I haven’t heard much from Townes van Zandt, any you’d recommend?

I have a deep love for both Gordon Lightfoot and Townes van Zandt so I'm jumping in.
The two qualities that Lightfoot and Zandt share are rare. They both can paint vivid landscapes with their words. Their melodies have the "inevitable" quality. When a song is heard for the first time but the melody just sounds familiar even though it is obviously not.

Zandt was influential to that Austin sound of the eighties

When Zandt's songs get radio play at all, it is on country radio and always sung by someone else.

His most famous.

His most heartbreaking story song.
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My personal favorite of his shorter songs.


If one wants to get an hour overview of his songwriting, this tribute shows the respect and influence he had. Perhaps only a hardcore folkie will know the amazing talent that was packed up on that stage,

[Celestia]

I have a deep love for both Gordon Lightfoot and Townes van Zandt so I'm jumping in.
The two qualities that Lightfoot and Zandt share are rare. They both can paint vivid landscapes with their words. Their melodies have the "inevitable" quality. When a song is heard for the first time but the melody just sounds familiar even though it is obviously not.

Zandt was influential to that Austin sound of the eighties

When Zandt's songs get radio play at all, it is on country radio and always sung by someone else.

His most famous.

His most heartbreaking story song.
\ ]

My personal favorite of his shorter songs.


If one wants to get an hour overview of his songwriting, this tribute shows the respect and influence he had. Perhaps only a hardcore folkie will know the amazing talent that was packed up on that stage,

I am more familiar with Gordon Lightfoot but I have listened to the suggestions that you and rossa-slongo shared of Townes van Zandt. It’s clear they are both talented in their story-telling. Quality lyrics as they paint the pictures beautifully.
Townes Van Zandt has a softer and calming tone, I’d listen to him while on a long road-trip but I’d definitely have to be in the mood.

Rossa-slongo, could you share some of these “gaucho” songs? That’s a genre I’ve never listened to and I’m intrigued haha

[Marsa]

Ice-cream, Summer, most of today’s top hits. Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran lol

Lol, same! Don't like the Beatles, can't stand today's popular music and I'm not a summer child :-)

Have you ever tried bungee jumping or skydiving? Or is there there any adventurous experience you'd like to share?

[Celestia]

Lol, same! Don't like the Beatles, can't stand today's popular music and I'm not a summer child :-)

Have you ever tried bungee jumping or skydiving? Or is there there any adventurous experience you'd like to share?

I’ve always wanted to skydive, I tried to do it for my 21st birthday but none of my friends were up for it
Now that I’m older and a mother it isn’t as appealing to me.

I would get my adrenaline rush by hiking up to mountain summits when I lived in Colorado I encountered a lot of wild animals; Buffalos, Big Horn Sheep, Foxes, Bobcats and smaller rodents. It definitely fulfilled my adventurous side.

[capocannoniere]

I am more familiar with Gordon Lightfoot but I have listened to the suggestions that you and rossa-slongo shared of Townes van Zandt. It’s clear they are both talented in their story-telling. Quality lyrics as they paint the pictures beautifully.
Townes can Zandt has a softer and calming tone, I’d listen to him while on a long road-trip but I’d definitely have to be in the mood.

Rossa-slongo, could you share some of these “gaucho” songs? That’s a genre I’ve never listened to and I’m intrigued haha

In Argentina people call it "folklore" and in Brazil "musica gaucha". It's a good mix of different genres that have in common the use of classic guitars "the spanish way", sometimes violins and nowadays more important than all, the accordion or bandoneón. It can be similar to Tango, as it is a big influence to this genre of Buenos Aires. The biggest divide to me, be it in Portuguese or Spanish, is between the more playful, rural songs and later some serious, often instrumental pieces.

Most Italian immigrants have this genre as their own too, as everyone from the South arrived in Rio Grande do Sul. My paternal greatgrandfather Luigi (the man on the signature photo) lived there until he killed a man (long story) and fled to the bordering state of Santa Catarina. Grandpa says he asked his mother to leave the state on his mom's womb because he did not want to be called a Gaucho . He does not like the genre and prefers the old "Sertanejo" from the rural Southeast and Midwest, while my maternal grandfather really likes it.

I will show you some samples, I hope I've chosen the right ones, I am pretty anxious when I introduce people to a genre or an artist because a bad choice can paint a wrong image of the music to the listener.

Brazilian songs:

Spoiler!

Argentinian songs:

Spoiler!

Modern rock songs influenced (even if slightly) by folklore.

Spoiler!

This one's literally about yerba mate

[Celestia]

In Argentina people call it "folklore" and in Brazil "musica gaucha". It's a good mix of different genres that have in common the use of classic guitars "the spanish way", sometimes violins and nowadays more important than all, the accordion or bandoneón. It can be similar to Tango, as it is a big influence to this genre of Buenos Aires. The biggest divide to me, be it in Portuguese or Spanish, is between the more playful, rural songs and later some serious, often instrumental pieces.

Most Italian immigrants have this genre as their own too, as everyone from the South arrived in Rio Grande do Sul. My paternal greatgrandfather Luigi (the man on the signature photo) lived there until he killed a man (long story) and fled to the bordering state of Santa Catarina. Grandpa says he asked his mother to leave the state on his mom's womb because he did not want to be called a Gaucho . He does not like the genre and prefers the old "Sertanejo" from the rural Southeast and Midwest, while my maternal grandfather really likes it.

I will show you some samples, I hope I've chosen the right ones, I am pretty anxious when I introduce people to a genre or an artist because a bad choice can paint a wrong image of the music to the listener.

Brazilian songs:
[spoiler]


Argentinian songs:

Spoiler!

Modern rock songs influenced (even if slightly) by folklore.

Spoiler!

This one's literally about yerba mate

Thanks so much for sharing, I loved them!
It was interesting to me because I felt a sense of familiarity. Zydeco (Cajun music) is heavy on the accordion as well, the only difference is the tempo. Zydeco is more upbeat, light and fun. The genre you shared with me seems a bit more dramatic and deep. (Which is why I enjoyed it) Ofc I can’t understand the lyrics so maybe it’s more light-hearted than I’m assuming.

Your family background was perfect because it helped add that dramatic flare to the music and it was more rich in context. (My relatives weren’t angels either…which is okay because they make for great stories :-p)

No need to feel anxious! I get like that too, I don’t want to ruin someone’s idea of a genre because I suggested the wrong ones
But I can appreciate the cultural value traditional music holds, it helps me familiarize myself with the culture.

Here’s an example of Zydeco music: