Is Finland in Eastern Europe?

[Methuselah]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia

What are you trying to say fella?

I already know that Scandinavia does not include Finland. Northern Europe (Nordic Countries) however includes Finland. Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Denmark are Scandinavian countries speaking Germanic languages. Finland is a Nordic country speaking Finnish language (Swedish is other official language taught in school). Finland is related to Sweden, genetically and culturally, but is not a Scandinavian country.

[Östsvensk]

No
- we welcome all asylum seekers
- eat daily junk food
- have strong rainbow movement
- our procecutor general is a woke supporter
- our young people are fattest people in the world after USA and England

Maybe Canada. Trudeau's Canada in the same front of the western world with us 😁

I know a family from Lithuania. Their son who grows up here is a real chubby, while his mother is perfectly slim. The only good thing about communism, maybe, is that there are no fat people. The only fat people in communist countries are the ones who rule them.

[Peterski]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennoscandia

[Lemminkäinen]

Ok, sorry for bad question setting.

So lets try again: Do you think that Finland was less or more ''Eastern'' back in those days?

Impossible to answer. Before that you have to define what being western means. On longitudes Finland is as western as Greek

[Östsvensk]

What are you trying to say fella?

I already know that Scandinavia does not include Finland. Northern Europe (Nordic Countries) however includes Finland. Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Denmark are Scandinavian countries speaking Germanic languages. Finland is a Nordic country speaking Finnish language (Swedish is other official language taught in school). Finland is related to Sweden, genetically and culturally, but is not a Scandinavian country.

Are there any good G25 coordinates? Here, Finns seem to be closer to Russians than to Swedes (the Swedes are from Stockholm, so not unlikely have some Finnic admix).

Distance to: Finnish
0.02687788 Russian_Kostroma
0.03929715 Russian_Tver
0.03950269 Russian_Pinega
0.04625412 Russian_Kursk
0.04805733 Russian_Orel
0.04923719 Russian_Voronez
0.05074206 Russian_Smolensk
0.05345549 Ukrainian
0.05396549 Polish
0.05647418 Swedish
0.06710426 Norwegian

Distance to: Finnish_East
0.02320567 Russian_Pinega
0.03121969 Russian_Kostroma
0.05118558 Russian_Tver
0.06019585 Russian_Kursk
0.06307417 Russian_Orel
0.06443948 Russian_Voronez
0.06585401 Russian_Smolensk
0.06959673 Ukrainian
0.07203204 Polish
0.07730063 Swedish
0.08676776 Norwegian

Distance to: Swedish
0.01856720 Norwegian
0.04503272 Polish
0.05259831 Ukrainian
0.05647418 Finnish
0.05648960 Russian_Voronez
0.05661743 Russian_Orel
0.05838205 Russian_Smolensk
0.05842977 Russian_Kursk
0.06111074 Russian_Tver
0.06835834 Russian_Kostroma
0.07730063 Finnish_East
0.09296982 Russian_Pinega

Hmm, Swedes closer to Poles and Russians than to Germanic groups... something's not right here.

According to Salmela et al 2011, Fst distance from East and West Finns to Swedes is 70,3 and 24,2, respectively. To Russians, 69,0 and 34,4.

[Finnish Swede]

Impossible to answer. Before that you have to define what being western means.

You meant define ''eastern'' now?

As most of time; I have crystal clear picture of that, but to avoid some useless debates, I will pass.

[Methuselah]

Impossible to answer. Before that you have to define what being western means. On longitudes Finland is as western as Greek

She probably means if Finns were mentally less Western European minded than they are now.

[Blondie]

Genetically finns are closest to estonians followed by swedes, they also have pretty significant siberian admixture that connect them to east european uralic peoples. The finnish genetic is between scandinavians and east europeans (baltics) in half way.
Geographically its clearly East Europe, just like their time zone.
Culturally they are closest to scandinavians.

[Blondie]

double

[Methuselah]

Are there any good G25 coordinates? Here, Finns seem to be closer to Russians than to Swedes (the Swedes are from Stockholm, so not unlikely have some Finnic admix).

Distance to: Finnish
0.02687788 Russian_Kostroma
0.03929715 Russian_Tver
0.03950269 Russian_Pinega
0.04625412 Russian_Kursk
0.04805733 Russian_Orel
0.04923719 Russian_Voronez
0.05074206 Russian_Smolensk
0.05345549 Ukrainian
0.05396549 Polish
0.05647418 Swedish
0.06710426 Norwegian

Distance to: Finnish_East
0.02320567 Russian_Pinega
0.03121969 Russian_Kostroma
0.05118558 Russian_Tver
0.06019585 Russian_Kursk
0.06307417 Russian_Orel
0.06443948 Russian_Voronez
0.06585401 Russian_Smolensk
0.06959673 Ukrainian
0.07203204 Polish
0.07730063 Swedish
0.08676776 Norwegian

Distance to: Swedish
0.01856720 Norwegian
0.04503272 Polish
0.05259831 Ukrainian
0.05647418 Finnish
0.05648960 Russian_Voronez
0.05661743 Russian_Orel
0.05838205 Russian_Smolensk
0.05842977 Russian_Kursk
0.06111074 Russian_Tver
0.06835834 Russian_Kostroma
0.07730063 Finnish_East
0.09296982 Russian_Pinega

Hmm, Swedes closer to Poles and Russians than to Germanic groups... something's not right here.

According to Salmela et al 2011, Fst distance from East and West Finns to Swedes is 70,3 and 24,2, respectively. To Russians, 69,0 and 34,4.

No idea about G25 coordinates. But no way Swedes are that much Slavic admixed.