How much Siberian ancestry do North and East Russians have?

[Italicus]

Hey everyone, so I know that in North and East Russia people have a relatively high amount of Siberian DNA. How much Siberian can they get?

[Leto]

It can be over 10% in ethnic Russians. Perm and Sverdlovsk (Yekaterinburg) oblasts have the most from what I've seen (and I've seen a lot). Some remote Arkhangelsk oblast communities (academic samples) have a similar percentage.
Needless to say non-Slavic minorities can be full Siberians.

[Italicus]

It can be over 10% in ethnic Russians. Perm and Sverdlovsk (Yekaterinburg) oblasts have the most from what I've seen (and I've seen a lot). Some remote Arkhangelsk oblast communities (academic samples) have a similar percentage.
Needless to say non-Slavic minorities can be full Siberians.

Thanks! How much Siberian do people in Perm and Sverdlovsk usually have?

[Leto]

Thanks! How much Siberian do people in Perm and Sverdlovsk usually have?

No problem. They are 10-12%, I believe. I have a couple of individuals with nearly 15% but those are rather rare cases. Obviously people with recent foreign ancestry can be anything potentially.

[Italicus]

No problem. They are 10-12%, I believe. I have a couple of individuals with nearly 15% but those are rather rare cases. Obviously people with recent foreign ancestry can be anything potentially.

Do you know how much Siberian East and West Finns have, by any chance?

[Leto]

Do you know how much Siberian East and West Finns have, by any chance?

Finns can be around 10%, I guess those should be Eastern ones.

[Roy]

It can be over 10% in ethnic Russians. Perm and Sverdlovsk (Yekaterinburg) oblasts have the most from what I've seen (and I've seen a lot). Some remote Arkhangelsk oblast communities (academic samples) have a similar percentage.
Needless to say non-Slavic minorities can be full Siberians.

Is it visible in phenotype of Russians from Sverdlovsk let's say?

[Leto]

Is it visible in phenotype of Russians from Sverdlovsk let's say?

Yes, sometimes it is.

[Komintasavalta]

In K13, two samples from northeastern Arkhangelsk Oblast got a combined percentage of over 16% for the Siberian, East Asian, and Amerindian components. The samples are from Jeong et al. 2019, "The genetic history of admixture across inner Eurasia".

Siberian+ East_Asian+ Amerindian	sample	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_African	Sub-Saharan
16.31	Russian_Archangelsk_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-140	26.25	45.81	6.12	3.41	0.00	0.00	0.80	0.19	15.10	1.02	0.00	0.00	1.29
16.12	Russian_Archangelsk_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-144	25.20	53.17	0.00	3.19	0.00	0.00	0.14	0.24	13.22	2.66	0.98	0.63	0.58
15.24	Russian_Archangelsk_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-002	25.95	49.80	0.00	5.87	0.00	0.00	1.33	1.03	13.19	1.02	0.91	0.91	0.00
14.82	Russian_Archangelsk_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-143	24.93	46.01	0.70	6.79	2.51	0.00	2.93	0.00	12.79	2.03	0.49	0.00	0.82
12.27	Russian_Archangelsk_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-149	23.18	50.11	3.26	2.51	2.14	2.03	1.95	0.00	9.87	2.40	1.42	1.13	0.00
11.88	Russian_Archangelsk_Pinezhsky:RPin-145	23.29	50.95	3.42	3.63	2.03	0.38	2.08	0.08	9.26	2.54	0.44	1.93	0.00
11.79	Russian_Archangelsk_Pinezhsky:RPin-114	25.16	49.26	9.08	2.11	0.34	0.00	0.57	0.00	8.43	3.36	1.39	0.27	0.03
11.52	Russian_Archangelsk_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-203	27.88	48.61	4.45	4.95	0.13	0.26	1.28	2.37	7.81	1.34	0.93	0.00	0.00
11.49	Russian_Archangelsk_Pinezhsky:RPin-151	28.20	54.83	0.82	0.00	0.25	0.00	3.45	0.07	8.93	2.49	0.01	0.00	0.96
11.43	Russian_Archangelsk_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-341	30.11	48.53	3.62	3.07	0.00	0.00	2.59	0.00	10.38	1.05	0.26	0.37	0.01
11.42	Russian_Archangelsk_Pinezhsky:RPin-123	28.68	51.10	1.58	3.28	0.00	0.00	2.40	0.00	11.42	0.00	0.91	0.65	0.00
10.95	Russian_Vologda:HGDP00895	25.14	49.61	6.36	2.78	0.69	0.00	2.46	0.00	8.12	2.83	0.23	0.51	1.28
10.94	Russian_Archangelsk_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-237	27.74	45.54	7.27	3.67	2.66	1.78	0.40	1.40	7.63	1.91	0.00	0.00	0.00
10.88	Russian_Archangelsk_Pinezhsky:RPin-143	26.39	49.77	2.57	5.21	1.95	0.41	2.84	1.50	8.59	0.79	0.00	0.00	0.00
8.88	Russian_Vologda:HGDP00890	26.14	46.84	7.24	3.28	4.52	0.00	3.12	0.00	6.84	2.04	0.00	0.00	0.00
8.55	Russian_Archangelsk_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-345	30.48	46.46	4.75	5.46	1.76	0.00	2.21	0.24	7.04	1.27	0.33	0.00	0.00
7.62	Russian_Archangelsk_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-248	25.47	50.31	5.62	4.12	1.97	0.02	4.31	0.00	7.62	0.00	0.00	0.56	0.00
6.83	Russian_Archangelsk_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-205	27.35	46.43	4.44	4.03	5.05	1.36	2.70	1.10	5.70	0.03	1.20	0.59	0.01
6.81	Russian_Yaroslavl:RYAR-223	24.68	51.52	10.66	2.91	0.00	0.86	0.39	0.00	4.95	1.86	0.15	2.01	0.00
6.75	Russian_Tver:Rksh-407	25.32	48.24	8.71	6.55	0.00	0.90	1.43	0.00	5.87	0.88	0.00	2.10	0.00
6.59	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-13	21.48	48.68	9.38	8.68	0.23	1.31	2.13	0.00	5.25	1.34	0.52	1.00	0.00
6.3	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-7	23.26	48.52	7.96	9.05	2.89	0.18	1.27	1.12	3.63	1.55	0.00	0.00	0.56
6.26	Russian_Tver:Rksh-402	28.11	47.37	8.31	6.91	0.00	0.23	2.18	0.00	4.67	1.59	0.57	0.00	0.08
6.1	Russian_Orel:Rorl-102	27.53	45.07	8.03	5.71	2.85	0.00	3.01	0.85	5.25	0.00	0.38	0.00	1.32
6	Russian_Vologda:HGDP00884	22.53	50.79	10.33	5.49	0.00	0.00	3.67	0.00	4.86	1.14	0.26	0.00	0.94
5.43	Russian_Yaroslavl:RYAR-173	26.80	51.72	8.61	3.80	1.66	0.00	0.00	0.00	3.93	1.50	0.65	0.63	0.69
5.25	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-11	24.63	45.49	12.25	9.53	0.21	0.00	2.64	0.14	3.59	1.52	0.00	0.00	0.00
5.19	Russian_Kaluga:Rkbo-16	29.49	46.09	6.82	5.18	3.15	3.24	0.15	0.00	3.29	1.90	0.69	0.00	0.00
5.13	Russian_Tver:Rksh-405	20.95	47.97	10.90	8.87	3.16	3.02	0.00	0.66	2.41	2.06	0.00	0.00	0.00
4.9	Russian_Pskov:Rps-098	24.02	50.27	7.96	7.36	3.77	0.66	0.00	0.00	3.55	1.35	0.29	0.78	0.00
4.58	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-3	22.20	51.89	8.48	2.12	9.40	0.03	1.05	0.00	3.14	1.44	0.00	0.00	0.24
4.55	Russian_Kursk:Rkuch-53	22.56	46.40	6.45	6.73	13.27	0.00	0.02	2.53	1.06	0.96	0.00	0.00	0.00
4.36	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-32	27.41	48.76	7.81	5.57	2.37	1.84	1.06	0.00	3.70	0.66	0.00	0.75	0.07
4.17	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-88	29.02	43.09	6.97	7.57	5.38	2.03	0.72	0.04	3.62	0.51	1.05	0.00	0.00
4.02	Russian_Belgorod:Rbgp-200	24.41	48.90	12.62	4.34	4.37	1.23	0.10	0.45	2.20	1.37	0.00	0.00	0.00
3.99	Russian_Orel:Rorl-155	29.83	44.61	8.21	3.72	7.58	0.75	1.02	0.00	2.23	1.76	0.24	0.04	0.00
3.88	Russian_Kursk:Rkuch-03	25.40	49.89	5.92	3.35	10.23	0.43	0.12	0.00	3.67	0.21	0.00	0.53	0.25
3.83	Russian_Yaroslavl:RYAR-232	27.72	47.61	8.63	8.21	0.00	1.20	1.47	0.00	2.28	1.55	1.33	0.00	0.00
3.81	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-10	21.96	49.97	7.69	5.11	9.26	0.36	0.44	1.35	1.04	1.42	0.48	0.57	0.35
3.78	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-66	29.71	42.94	8.58	10.53	0.00	1.13	1.41	0.00	3.78	0.00	0.52	0.95	0.46
3.59	Russian_Kaluga:Rkbo-44	28.41	46.71	7.02	2.17	9.29	0.00	2.05	0.00	1.96	1.63	0.26	0.00	0.51
3.36	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzs-58	23.49	48.01	8.10	6.35	7.86	0.00	2.41	0.00	3.04	0.32	0.19	0.00	0.22
3.31	Russian_Pskov:Rps-002	20.22	52.07	7.90	8.66	5.94	0.00	0.00	0.00	1.68	1.63	0.38	0.65	0.87
3.31	Russian_Kursk:Rkuch-05	31.45	47.12	6.95	4.85	5.75	0.00	0.00	0.42	2.31	0.58	0.39	0.19	0.00
3.3	Russian_Orel:Rorl-114	29.71	41.73	7.23	4.99	10.14	2.03	0.87	0.00	1.88	1.42	0.00	0.00	0.00
3.2	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-83	24.46	47.56	9.07	9.42	3.39	0.00	0.00	0.00	1.13	2.07	0.63	2.02	0.24
3.19	Russian_Tver:Rksh-412	21.76	52.49	9.59	4.38	5.53	0.66	2.06	0.00	2.70	0.49	0.00	0.00	0.35
3.19	Russian_Pskov:Rps-012	29.49	52.41	8.09	3.10	2.54	0.00	0.15	0.00	2.25	0.94	0.03	1.00	0.00
3.08	Russian_Pskov:Rps-091	23.91	49.76	11.25	5.88	1.14	3.40	0.08	0.00	2.29	0.79	0.00	0.08	1.42
2.9	Russian_Belgorod:Rbgp-205	24.23	50.65	9.30	5.14	4.52	2.44	0.00	0.00	2.90	0.00	0.83	0.00	0.00
2.74	Russian_Pskov:Rps-090	30.27	52.01	5.70	6.36	0.00	0.09	0.00	0.00	2.74	0.00	1.73	0.31	0.79
2.66	Russian_Belgorod:Rbgp-201	22.22	49.60	9.69	3.92	7.62	1.15	1.35	0.00	1.91	0.75	0.42	1.38	0.00
2.6	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-08	28.46	43.88	9.73	9.46	3.99	0.00	0.21	0.00	1.45	1.15	0.63	1.03	0.00
2.6	Russian_Belgorod:Rbgp-203	23.58	42.34	13.16	8.98	7.90	0.80	0.00	1.50	1.10	0.00	0.64	0.00	0.00
2.5	Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-109	27.28	48.64	10.88	5.02	4.76	0.00	0.10	0.82	1.68	0.00	0.36	0.46	0.00
2.5	Russian_Ryazan:Rrzm-16	23.94	47.11	9.08	4.31	7.47	0.24	4.38	1.84	0.00	0.66	0.29	0.00	0.68
2.44	Russian_Kaluga:Rkbo-12	28.24	48.55	6.63	1.92	7.63	2.02	2.18	0.00	1.35	1.09	0.00	0.00	0.38
2.42	Russian_Kursk:Rkuch-58	27.01	47.78	11.23	4.59	0.00	0.98	3.52	0.00	0.54	1.88	1.09	0.93	0.46
2.36	Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-181	24.45	49.84	10.65	2.97	7.08	0.00	0.00	1.02	0.00	1.34	0.88	0.00	1.76
2.21	Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-171	27.98	48.37	10.25	1.22	5.92	0.66	1.79	1.20	0.59	0.42	0.79	0.81	0.00
2.09	Russian_Orel:Rorl-110	23.42	48.10	8.92	10.48	4.24	1.24	0.14	1.92	0.00	0.17	0.00	1.36	0.01
1.97	Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-179	27.79	46.84	7.49	6.63	6.05	0.89	0.93	0.83	1.00	0.14	0.57	0.00	0.83
1.93	Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-176	21.99	49.98	7.90	5.16	9.38	0.06	2.43	0.70	0.00	1.23	0.00	1.16	0.00
1.84	Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-103	26.39	47.34	10.45	2.36	6.43	1.28	3.90	0.00	1.37	0.47	0.00	0.00	0.00
1.84	Russian_Pskov:Rps-006	29.40	54.88	7.35	3.40	0.00	0.75	1.41	0.00	0.69	1.15	0.13	0.00	0.84
1.63	Russian_Kaluga:Rkbo-58	27.44	52.44	6.57	6.81	3.04	1.61	0.00	0.00	1.63	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.47
1.02	Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-166	27.77	46.88	7.80	7.84	6.19	0.00	1.78	0.00	0.23	0.79	0.32	0.40	0.00
0	Russian_Pskov:Rps-004	25.22	58.98	6.22	0.84	0.00	5.19	1.83	0.00	0.00	0.00	1.16	0.55	0.00

Is it visible in phenotype of Russians from Sverdlovsk let's say?

Yes, they have the Ural low butt:


http://www.e1.ru/news/spool/news_id-407355.html

[Leto]

In K13, two samples from northeastern Arkhangelsk Oblast got a combined percentage of over 16% for the Siberian, East Asian, and Amerindian components. The samples are from Jeong et al. 2019, "The genetic history of admixture across inner Eurasia".

The Amerindian is not an entirely Siberian component though. That's why I use Dodecad K12b. But anyway, those samples look like complete outliers, probably assimilated Komis. Regular Northern Russians are less than 10% Siberian on average, certainly not 15% or anything.