Why is Y-Haplogroup E very rare in South Asia/Indian Subcontinent

[VikLevaPatel]

Both IE- and DR-speaking populations show a high combined frequency of haplogroups C*, L1, H1, and R2. The total frequency of these four haplogroups outside of India is marginally low. In turn, haplogroups E, I, G, J*, and R1* have a combined frequency of 53% in the Near East among the Turks and 24% in Central Asia, but they are rare or absent in India (0.86% in all populations and almost solely because of R1*). Similarly, haplogroups C3, D, N, and O specific to Central Asian (36%) and Southeast Asian populations (subclades of haplogroup O; 85%) are virtually absent in India. Only haplogroups J2 and R1a have interregional frequency patterns west of India with J2 being most common in Afro-Asiaticspeaking (and IE-speaking) populations of the Near East and Middle East, whereas R1a occurs at the highest frequencies in populations of India, East Europe, and Central Asia. The O2a and O3e subclades of haplogroup O in India also have interregional distributions, overlapping with those of Southeast Asia and East Asia.

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/103/4/843.full.pdf

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7358310

[zebruh]

J2a common in Neolithic groups in India from Iran Farmer lineage. It is present among tribals and some castes all over India probably 10-20% percent out of whole 2B South Asians including J2b2.
J2b2 is also present high among tribals and castes. It is said to be some ancient time movement into India.
J1 is rare in India. it is present only among recent muslim populations

J2b2 isnt high in india. Thats a lie.
Edit looks like you were right. Its just J-L283 that isn't

[E1b1b]

What migration/culture would have brought it? None. Just didn’t happen.

[Arūnas]

yeah, we're coming

[VikLevaPatel]

Regarding E-M215/E1b1b samples, FTDNA Big Y Specialist Casimir sent me this:

We have three ancient samples at E-M215. Here are the sample Ids and some information about the sample:

I10551: Farkhor, Tajikistan - MLBA 3000-2000 BCE (Narasimhan 2019)

RISE416: Bronze Age Eurasia (Allentoft 2015)

SzKper239: SzK/239 - Szekkutas- Kapolnadul6/239 - middle and late Avar period 650/660-670/675 (Neparáczki 2019)

See also https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7378383

[VikLevaPatel]

In addition to the frequency of classical genetic markers, the distribution of Y-chromosomal haplogroups shows broad clines across Europe, which was characterized as one of the main features of the European genetic landscape and regarded as evidence for the demic diffusion model. Moreover, previous studies of Y-chromosomal haplogroup distribution reveal that the majority of contemporary European lineages fall into the haplogroups E, G, I, N, and R. Further, it has been suggested that some Y-chromosomal haplogroups serve as specific markers of the Neolithic migration involving the first farmers from the Fertile Crescent, namely, E1b1b1-M35, J2-M172, G-M201, and R1b1a2-M269 lineages. In particular, haplogroup R1b1a2-M269 is the most common Y-chromosomal lineage in Europe, encountered in 110 million European men, and increases in frequency westward.

https://investigativegenetics.biomed...323-014-0015-6

Hovhannisyan, A., Khachatryan, Z., Haber, M. et al. Different waves and directions of Neolithic migrations in the Armenian Highland. Investig Genet 5, 15 (2014). https://doi.org/10.1186/s13323-014-0015-6

Y-SNP and Y-STR genotyping: https://archive.ph/2ptvy#selection-1235.0-1235.26

Folks who reportedly were M35.1 include Albert Einstein, the Wright brothers, Michelangelo, President Lyndon Baines Johnson and Sir David Attenborough. But there are more divisions in this subgroup.

https://archive.ph/yBu3q#selection-375.0-379.1

Being in E-V13 would be a cool club, too. That’s because this is the subclade most commonly found in the Balkans that may be one of the more recent population movements from the Middle East into Europe and that may have had its big movement into the rest of Europe by following the Danube River. There are lots of theories about its spread in Europe, with one fun possibility being some sowing of wild oats by Roman legionnaires from the Balkans.

https://archive.ph/yBu3q#selection-401.0-401.446

Roots for Real is reporting my Y-DNA haplogroup as E1b1b1 / E-M35.1 (previously E3b).

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7387896

[VikLevaPatel]

Only total numbskulls and true-to-the-core dumbasses would do such a dumbass thing as that:

https://archive.is/jVkJg/088ca1ac688...7b307cd213.jpg

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The Report from GTLDNA Genetic Testing Laboratories via EasyDNA is exactly the same as the lineage report from DNA Diagnostics Center (DDC) Cincinnati.

Except for one crucial thing. I was given by this GTLDNA (via EasyDNA) the wrong haplogroup designation (E1b1a istead of haplogroup E1b1b) although the Markers and Regions were both correct.

E1b1b1 is the correct haplogroup designation:

https://i.ibb.co/tCkLd5H/15334-Y-Vik...-page-0001.jpg
https://archive.is/unmLr/4d61b209c5b...530bc889f4.jpg
Vik Patel_Y_Map .jpg

They failed to assign the correct Y chromosomal haplogroup, although I got the right mtDNA result (W6).