Jews 31% R1b??

[Pine]

I have a theory maybe we are actually jews that converted to islam ?a lot of Iraqi jews got converted to islam !! that explains why all my first & second& 3rd cousins are all under haplogroup R2a!?
since R2a in West Asia associated with Persian jews\Iraqi jews\mountain jews?

You may have Jewish ancestry, but it's unlikely to have anything to do with R2a. Jews with R2a either picked it up in the Babylonian diaspora or during the Persian control of Israel. I'll be surprised to see R2a in Israel prior to the Babylonian Exile. It's native to the Eastern Middle East. Could you fall into a Jewish subclade of R2a? Possible, but I doubt it. Your cousin matching is the much stronger reason to suspect any Jewish ancestry. Do you have any other Jewish matches?

[Pine]

Man you sound like that guy from gedmatch.com forum that was baiting all these people to believe fake theories lmao

I just watch a lot of foot porn.

[Dirdepo]

I just watch a lot of foot porn.

Interesting, my new ritual before chat with Jews is watch episode South Park lol

[mashail]

You may have Jewish ancestry, but it's unlikely to have anything to do with R2a. Jews with R2a either picked it up in the Babylonian diaspora or during the Persian control of Israel. I'll be surprised to see R2a in Israel prior to the Babylonian Exile. It's native to the Eastern Middle East. Could you fall into a Jewish subclade of R2a? Possible, but I doubt it. Your cousin matching is the much stronger reason to suspect any Jewish ancestry. Do you have any other Jewish matches?

Yeah, there was a Mizrahi cousin he was also a 4th cousin he probably made his information private that's why I couldn't find him anymore .

[Dr_Maul]

R1b M269 too basal. Its branch R1b Z2103 is more or less Middle Eastern (and balkan for some reason) has been in the region since LBA, either Indo Iranian or Hurrian or both. The chance of R1b Z159 or L2 coming from MENA is microscopic, but not 0 (seems its been found in a handful of Romans could also be sea people)

[Flub]

R1b M269 too basal. Its branch R1b Z2103 is more or less Middle Eastern (and balkan for some reason) has been in the region since LBA, either Indo Iranian or Hurrian or both. The chance of R1b Z159 or L2 coming from MENA is microscopic, but not 0 (seems its been found in a handful of Romans could also be sea people)

Forget R-L2, R-Z159 is the weird one, it is from R U106 (which I assume is mainly Germanic, so how is it possible for it to be in the middle east?). On YFull there is a clade before the >jewish< specific clades (mainly FGC8564, and A689) where there is mainly Portuguese flags (that one being Y5051) which could theorize being Visigoth lineages from the Jews that have inhabited Iberia.

[Havana]

Some of the R1b is Middle Eastern and there is a Western Jewish R-V88 clade:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-FGC21016/

There is also barely any data on the Y-DNA of Sephardim Jews. Take any such statistics on them with a lot of salt.

Also, R-M269 has plenty of Middle Eastern clades.

Middle Eastern R1b among Jews:

https://jewishdna.net/R1b-old.html
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-Z2103.html

European R1b among Jews:
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-Europe.html
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-DF27.html

And honestly, I think we may find some DF27 clades in the ancient middle east, but the best bet for any given DF27 is that it's European.

r1b is not middle eastern. You only say that because you want to make the jews look more middle eastern even though they are mostly European lineages. And they are mostly a religious group of people.

[Pine]

r1b is not middle eastern. You only say that because you want to make the jews look more middle eastern even though they are mostly European lineages. And they are mostly a religious group of people.

I also want to hide the European background of Assyrians, Arabs, Sub-Saharan Africans, Armenians and don't forget - ancient Middle Eastern samples.

[Dr_Maul]

Forget R-L2, R-Z159 is the weird one, it is from R U106 (which I assume is mainly Germanic, so how is it possible for it to be in the middle east?). On YFull there is a clade before the >jewish< specific clades (mainly FGC8564, and A689) where there is mainly Portuguese flags (that one being Y5051) which could theorize being Visigoth lineages from the Jews that have inhabited Iberia.

Well these 2 branches of Z2103 seem Jewish and the upstream is more or less NW Asian (NW Asian lineages being fairly typical in the Levant since Iron age)
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-BY13830/
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y16852/

[Flub]

Well these 2 branches of Z2103 seem Jewish and the upstream is more or less NW Asian (NW Asian lineages being fairly typical in the Levant since Iron age)
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-BY13830/
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y16852/

Interesting, do you wager that the lineages(FGC8564, A689) above to have came later or was there to begin with? R L2 I could see, but R Z159 I don't see being apart of it.