Jews 31% R1b??

[Flub]

https://www.genebase.com/learning-ce...wish-ancestry/
"Jews" Is actually very broad in my opinion. I think they'd be referring to the european ones? I hear Sephardim or Portuguese Jews are in the high 20s (28% ish).
In my observation, I've seen alot of jews with R from R-M269, R-Z159, and R-L2 but none really from the middle east like R-V88, or I just got lucky to see the minorities.

Edit: just saw one recently with I-CTS5966(very balkan, southern european)even though he was half but paternally was from a jew.

[Pine]

https://www.genebase.com/learning-ce...wish-ancestry/
"Jews" Is actually very broad in my opinion. I think they'd be referring to the european ones? I hear Sephardim or Portuguese Jews are in the high 20s (28% ish).
In my observation, I've seen alot of jews with R from R-M269, R-Z159, and R-L2 but none really from the middle east like R-V88, or I just got lucky to see the minorities.

Edit: just saw one recently with I-CTS5966(very balkan, southern european)even though he was half but paternally was from a jew.

Some of the R1b is Middle Eastern and there is a Western Jewish R-V88 clade:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-FGC21016/

There is also barely any data on the Y-DNA of Sephardim Jews. Take any such statistics on them with a lot of salt.

Also, R-M269 has plenty of Middle Eastern clades.

Middle Eastern R1b among Jews:

https://jewishdna.net/R1b-old.html
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-Z2103.html

European R1b among Jews:
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-Europe.html
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-DF27.html

And honestly, I think we may find some DF27 clades in the ancient middle east, but the best bet for any given DF27 is that it's European.

[Pine]

The dude you saw is in this clade: https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y23115/

It probably got picked up in the Greek diaspora, but there is a chance it entered Judea during the Hellenistic or Roman Era.

[Donhueas]

Jews should have very varied paternal haplogroups, since it is more likely than a man-goy integrate into a Jewish community than a woman-goy.

[Pine]

Jews should have very varied paternal haplogroups, since it is more likely than a man-goy integrate into a Jewish community than a woman-goy.

This is false.

[Donhueas]

This is false.

I should have said I only suspected it. Why is it false?

[Pine]

I should have said I only suspected it. Why is it a lie?

It's not a "lie". I have no reason to suspect you were dishonest. The reason it's false is because of 1)What we know about Jewish MTDNA vs Jewish YDNA 2)It's harder for men (circumcision) 3)I've seen more historical data on foreign women than foreign men. I suspect that in most migrating ethnic groups, most admixture is female mediated.

[Donhueas]

It's not a "lie". I have no reason to suspect you were dishonest. The reason it's false is because of 1)What we know about Jewish MTDNA vs Jewish YDNA 2)It's harder for men (circumcision) 3)I've seen more historical data on foreign women than foreign men. I suspect that in most migrating ethnic groups, most admixture is female mediated.

Yes lmao, A lexical-non-native error

[Flub]

Some of the R1b is Middle Eastern and there is a Western Jewish R-V88 clade:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-FGC21016/

There is also barely any data on the Y-DNA of Sephardim Jews. Take any such statistics on them with a lot of salt.

Also, R-M269 has plenty of Middle Eastern clades.

Middle Eastern R1b among Jews:

https://jewishdna.net/R1b-old.html
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-Z2103.html

European R1b among Jews:
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-Europe.html
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-DF27.html

And honestly, I think we may find some DF27 clades in the ancient middle east, but the best bet for any given DF27 is that it's European.

It's pretty odd that only one identifies with Yiddish? I'd suspect that Ukrainian and Polish flags could also be Jews. But, more samples I guess.

[Pine]

It's pretty odd that only one identifies with Yiddish? I'd suspect that Ukrainian and Polish flags could also be Jews. But, more samples I guess.

They're all descended from Jews. YFull only added languages lately and most don't care to add it.