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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Well, they were atypical, we have DNA results from other Sephardic communities to demonstrate it.
    I would be interested in seeing DNA breakdown of portuguese jews from Portugal only (pre 1515 mainly) do you have these? Those are actually the ones that I doubt would be different from sephardic from the study and the ones that had comunities in the Netherlands.Not sephardic jews from greece or North Africa.
    Edit : Bragança Jews from the study have even more R1b than Belmonte ones.Are they atypical too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the Atlantic View Post
    I would be interested in seeing DNA breakdown of portuguese jews from Portugal only (pre 1515 mainly) do you have these? Those are actually the ones that I doubt would be different from sephardic from the study and the ones that had comunities in the Netherlands.Not sephardic jews from greece or North Africa.
    Edit : Bragança Jews from the study have even more R1b than Belmonte ones.Are they atypical too?
    Yes, both groups are highly atypical. Results from pre-1515 do not exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yes, both groups are highly atypical. Results from pre-1515 do not exist.
    I mean It would be pretty cool to have some pre inquisition, but no need to be exclusively them , till now I have seen nothing indicating these 2 groups y DNA distribution are atypical for portuguese jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yeah. Whereas R1b seems mostly Euro except R1b-V88.
    R1b seems to be half and half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    Around 93% of Ashkenazi R1a (keeping in mind R1a is 8.9% of Ashkenazim) falls under R-Y2619, which in turn falls under R-CTS6 - which is a MENA clade. The closest relations to this Levite branch are in Western Iran, Northern Iraq, and Eastern Anatolia. So we can assume the line came from there at some point. So it's definitely MENA, and certainly not Eastern European.
    Ok but Armenia would make more sense. I guess that depends how far back you want to trace that R1a.

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    What is the maternal original group of Jewish women? and what of Jewish men? the original haplogroups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theskyisblue2 View Post
    What is the maternal original group of Jewish women? and what of Jewish men? the original haplogroups?
    It would be difficult if not impossible to get a comprehensive list, partially because contrary to what the Bible says the ethnogenesis of the Israelites would have taken place over the course of centuries and partially because we'll never get a 'complete' set of readable DNA from enough exemplars to say. That said there have been a couple of studies done, one I recall included 5-6 MTDNA samples from 1st century Judea, and we can infer from incomplete data, also - likely a lot of J1, J2, E3b and G2 with some R1 for YDNA, and probably U including U8b (K), T, J, I for MTDNA.
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