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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    Also, R-M269 has plenty of Middle Eastern clades.
    How could it have become Middle Eastern when it's a chiefly Western European haplogroup? Crusaders? Or some earlier movement of Europeans into the Levant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    How could it have become Middle Eastern when it's a chiefly Western European haplogroup? Crusaders? Or some earlier movement of Europeans into the Levant?
    Some went straight into the Middle East from the PIE homeland (which likely extended into the Northern Middle East anyhow).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    Some went straight into the Middle East from the PIE homeland (which likely extended into the Northern Middle East anyhow).
    those are my cousins results do they belong to r1b?
    https://imgur.com/o98cL6l
    https://imgur.com/3eg6qLr
    https://imgur.com/nd6tDc6
    https://imgur.com/2loyly7

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashail View Post
    Hard to tell because some of them are cut off, but one of them is R-M207 which is just basal R (R*).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hereto View Post
    Hard to tell because some of them are cut off, but one of them is R-M207 which is just basal R (R*).
    how about those
    R-M124
    R-M512
    R-FGC17631
    https://imgur.com/2loyly7

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashail View Post
    Of the ones not cutoff, I didn't spot any, but google is your friend. Your R1a match in there is likely in R-Z93, which I think of as the analog of the Middle Eastern R1b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashail View Post
    how about those
    R-M124
    R-M512
    R-FGC17631
    https://imgur.com/2loyly7
    R-M124 is R2a aswell as R-FGC17631. But, R-M512 is R1a1a. Both I think are common in Indo-Iranian tribes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hereto View Post
    R-M124 is R2a aswell as R-FGC17631. But, R-M512 is R1a1a. Both I believe are common in Indo-Iranian tribes.
    my cousins are north Iraqi from alsayed\hashimi tribe descendants from Abraham so genetic wise they are IE not Semites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hereto View Post
    R-M124 is R2a aswell as R-FGC17631. But, R-M512 is R1a1a. Both I think are common in Indo-Iranian tribes.
    Is R2a also r1b?

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    @mashail they descended from a IE tribe, and assimilated. The trace got lost in history.
    And... no R2a is not R1b. R2a I suspect is some detached Ancient North Eurasian marker that left the main line of R that came to both Europe and India.

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