Jews 31% R1b??

[mashail]

my Turkish 3rd cousin I guess he's also r1b?
https://imgur.com/0KxpNZA
https://imgur.com/xyJNB7C

[Flub]

my Turkish 3rd cousin I guess he's also r1b?
https://imgur.com/0KxpNZA
https://imgur.com/gUU3Tuq

He is indeed R1b even R-Z2103. Which is the middle eastern clade common in turkey and other places in Western Asia.
It is R-L23 which was found in Yamnaya. But, was detached from R-L51 more common Europe.

[mashail]

@mashail they descended from a IE tribe, and assimilated. The trace got lost in history.
And... no R2a is not R1b. R2a I suspect is some detached Ancient North Eurasian marker that left the main line of R that came to both Europe and India.

wow! so my family r from IE origin not semitic !! well, my cousins results are from 0%-40% Arabian and 30-70% (Armenia\Anatolia)mine is the highest almost 50% Arabia so we r still not semitic?genetic is weird now the real question am I semitic or IE
so basically my family r Kurd Iraqi not Arab Iraqi ?

[Pine]

my Turkish 3rd cousin I guess he's also r1b?
https://imgur.com/0KxpNZA
https://imgur.com/gUU3Tuq

Yeah, that's a Middle Eastern R1b. He's in here: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-BY129034/ . Haven't checked too deeply, but looks like a Kurdish clade.

[Pine]

wow! so my family r from IE origin not semitic !! well, my cousins results are from 0%-40% Arabian and 30-70% (Armenia\Anatolia)mine is the highest almost 50% Arabia so we r still not semitic?genetic is weird now the real question am I semitic or IE
so basically my family r Kurd Iraqi not Arab Iraqi ?

Semitic lands have already turned up ancient R1b and R1a samples and will continue doing so. Of course, they weren't there early enough to speak proto-Semitic.

[Pine]

R-M124 is R2a aswell as R-FGC17631. But, R-M512 is R1a1a. Both I think are common in Indo-Iranian tribes.

I've always associated R2a with the Mesopotamian area, at least for the modern distribution.

[Pine]

@mashail they descended from a IE tribe, and assimilated. The trace got lost in history.
And... no R2a is not R1b. R2a I suspect is some detached Ancient North Eurasian marker that left the main line of R that came to both Europe and India.

Not aware of any old European R2a. I expect every European R2a to be "recent": Hellenistic times and onwards. It's extremely rare in Europe, btw.

[mashail]

Not aware of any old European R2a. I expect every European R2a to be "recent": Hellenistic times and onwards. It's extremely rare in Europe, btw.

according to wikipedia R2A
is 44% among Georgian kurds ,18%Armenian , 16% mountain jews in the caucasus, it also has a presence in Central Asia and India.
also according to handwiki its also among west asians jews:
R-M124 is also found in multiple Jewish populations: Iraqi Jews, Persian Jews, Mountain Jews, and Ashkenazi Jews.[3]
https://handwiki.org/wiki/Biology:Haplogroup_R2

[mashail]

Not aware of any old European R2a. I expect every European R2a to be "recent": Hellenistic times and onwards. It's extremely rare in Europe, btw.

I have a 4th cousin he's also my fathers 3rd cousin he's results is 100% Ashkenazi jewish and I'm wondering what is his haplogroup?
do u think he's also R2a like most of my cousins?? what is Ashkenazi main haplogroup?
https://imgur.com/z1wvi1E
https://imgur.com/1HBDigV

[Pine]

I have a 4th cousin he's also my fathers 3rd cousin he's results is 100% Ashkenazi jewish and I'm wondering what is his haplogroup?
do u think he's also R2a like most of my cousins?? what is Ashkenazi main haplogroup?
https://imgur.com/z1wvi1E

There are Ashkenazim in R2a, but it's not common. How much total DNA does your dad share with him? How big is the largest segment?