View Poll Results: Should Austria-Hungary have continued to exist as a state and was it a good or rotten state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeduard View Post
    Any Romanianization attempt was mostly a failure compared to Magyarization politics, otherwise there would've been barely any Hungarians left today speaking their language and keeping their culture alive.
    Failure my ass. Get your facts straight.

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    the eternal conflicts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wehrmacht View Post
    This video is just bullshit, i don't think that somalis, ethiopians etc do care about hungarians and romanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Not really, that's why the romanian and hungarian genetic is far away from each other. Also the hungarians and romanians were separated in Transylvania, hungarians lived in the cities and romanians in countryside, they had different religion, so the intermarriage was ultra rare between hungarians and romanians.
    Many Szeklers score the same as Romanians. Most Csangos identify as Romanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Many Szeklers score the same as Romanians. Most Csangos identify as Romanians.
    Szeklers and csangos don't represent 15 million hungarian. As carpatz said in the last 50-60 years there was significant mixing between romanians and hungarians in Transylvania, so it's not a new thing that they are relative close to each other, but the complete hungarian and romanian ethnicity is far away. Even serbs are closer than romanians.

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    They got Österreich in the end...


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    What I do find to have been unfair towards German Austrians and Hungarians in the post-ww1 treaties was the fact that the almost wholly German populated South Tyrol was given to Italy, the union of Austria with Germany was forbidden and they gave majority Hungarian areas on the borders of modern day Hungary to Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia. But Hungarians exaggerate how unfair the Trianon treaty supposedly was. They are similar to some Germans and pro-Germans who exaggerate how "brutal" the Versailles treaty was with Germany. Overall the peace treaties did much more historical justice, then they punished without reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    What I do find to have been unfair towards German Austrians and Hungarians in the post-ww1 treaties was the fact that the almost wholly German populated South Tyrol was given to Italy, the union of Austria with Germany was forbidden and they gave majority Hungarian areas on the borders of modern day Hungary to Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia. But Hungarians exaggerate how unfair the Trianon treaty supposedly was. They are similar to some Germans and pro-Germans who exaggerate how "brutal" the Versailles treaty was with Germany. Overall the peace treaties did much more historical justice, then they punished without reason.
    In 1920 1/3 of hungarian population lived in Slovakia, Romania, Yugoslavia etc so it is no exaggeration that Trianon was very unfair. What would you say if 7 million romanian would live outside of Romania?
    If you check the ethnic maps you will see many interesting thing:



    Serbian population was only 1/4 in Vojvodina. Slovaks were minority in North Hungary, romanians were just 54% in Transylvania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    In 1920 1/3 of hungarian population lived in Slovakia, Romania, Yugoslavia etc so it is no exaggeration that Trianon was very unfair. What would you say if 7 million romanian would live outside of Romania?
    If you check the ethnic maps you will see many interesting thing:



    Serbian population was only 1/4 in Vojvodina. Slovaks were minority in North Hungary, romanians were just 54% in Transylvania.
    This is better, from an American historical atlas from 1911.https://maps.lib.utexas.edu/maps/his...herd_1911.html

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