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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Latin America has the largest population of Christian lebaneses in the World with around 15 milion people and they are perceived as white people and very integrated with Iberians, Italians and germans. They fell very latin american, they are very gratefull, sucessfull and integrated, their food is also very accepted, I also perceive this diaspora have a feeling of relief to have left the Middle East, a place where they were not welcome. I would like to know if their surnames are the same of muslin lebaneses.

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    I've talked to some online that have the Surname Chris, Mark, Maroun, Ibrahim, Mahfud, etc... Just like Mizrahim Jews, it seems like their names are a product of where they are from. Some names are biblical while some of their names are more local.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoMan View Post
    Lebanese Christians along with many levantine Christians retain a lot of their indigenous Levantine ancestry. This can also be said about non-christian Levantine groups like the Samaritans and Druze who also cluster next to Levantine Christians and Iron Age levants. Now of course phenotypically there might not be any difference between a Lebanese Muslim and a Lebanese Christian, but if you use non-commercial DNA models to determine the distance between both populations you will see that the distance is quite significant. That is of course due to the fact that Lebanese Muslims and other Levantine Muslims have some SSA admixture along with their increased Peninsular Arab admixture. I've even seen some Lebanese Muslims on 23andme score some eastern European admixture, maybe it Is just noise, or perhaps it can be attributed to the Janissaries. Only God knows.
    I in fact don't find commercial tests to be reliable enough since they are very open to political agendas. GEDmatch percentages are the best, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoMan View Post
    I've talked to some online that have the Surname Chris, Mark, Maroun, Ibrahim, Mahfud, etc... Just like Mizrahim Jews, it seems like their names are a product of where they are from. Some names are biblical while some of their names are more local.
    So is it the same of lebaneses muslins? I mean, can lebanese muslins have surnames as Haddad, Ayala, Saad, Mader, Nagler, Halal, Hayek correctly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    So is it the same of lebaneses muslins? I mean, can lebanese muslins have surnames as Haddad, Ayala, Saad, Mader, Nagler, Halal, Hayek correctly?
    Perhaps not with NT and some OT names but with some of the names you mentioned they seem to be more typical for Muslims in general. Names like Saad, Mader, and Halaal. Are pretty scattered. While names like Haddad, Ayala, and Hayek. Seem to be more centered around Levantine Christians/Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Latin America has the largest population of Christian lebaneses in the World with around 15 milion people and they are perceived as white people and very integrated with Iberians, Italians and germans. They fell very latin american, they are very gratefull, sucessfull and integrated, their food is also very accepted, I also perceive this diaspora have a feeling of relief to have left the Middle East, a place where they were not welcome. I would like to know if their surnames are the same of muslin lebaneses.

    Debora Halal Ayala, Miss Mexico 2021.




    Brazilian Actress Thaila Ayala



    Suzanne Von Richtofen, murdered her parentes in São Paulo 2002. Her mother was a lebanese-brazilian doctor.





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    Geraldo Alckimin, ex São Paulo Governo


    Fernando Haddad, ex Sao Paulo mayor, their darkest types are like him:


    Michel Temer, ex Brazilian President:


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    João Carlos Saad, he was the richest banker in the world when alive:


    How come there are 15 M of them? Or do you mean mean including people of partial Christian Lebanese descent?

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