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    Having said all this, the USA's real racial divide has been and almost certainly always will be White-Black. Perhaps I should show two neighbourhoods from Atlanta, New Orleans or Detroit to illustrate my point instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    OK, but considering that Los Angeles doesn't even have a White majority - in fact, Hispanics actually make up a plurality of the population - the fact that areas like Malibu still exist is astounding itself. In contrast, not even London or Paris are minority White cities (yet), albeit ironically this has been in part due to large-scale migration from Southern and Eastern Europe, rather than necessarily 'native' Whites staying around.
    Malibu only has twelve thousand people.
    Now compare them to other wealthy places such as Laguna Niguel, Torrance, Redondo Beach, Dana Point, Thousand Oaks, Santa Monica, Laguna Hills, Mission Viejo etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    OK, but considering that Los Angeles doesn't even have a White majority - in fact, Hispanics actually make up a plurality of the population - the fact that areas like Malibu still exist is astounding itself. In contrast, not even London or Paris are minority White cities (yet), albeit ironically this has been in part due to large-scale migration from Southern and Eastern Europe, rather than necessarily 'native' Whites staying around.
    Keep in mind that Malibu has a total population of around 12,000 so it's a tiny fraction of the LA County population. It's a small pocket of extreme affluence and hardly typical. I wouldn't draw too many conclusions. You could have just as easily picked a middle class suburb like Burbank, which has a white and Latino mix and is far more typical of workaday Southern California.

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    Much has been made about the racial divisions in Latin American countries, yet is there any city in Latin America where there are two neighbourhoods with such strikingly different racial compositions as this?
    You don't know the history of East LA.

    East LA was very racially diverse 80-100 years ago.

    Boyle Height's is part of East LA.

    " By the mid 1920s, moreover, one third of the 65,000 Jews living in Los Angeles lived in Boyle Heights. Eventually, the European immigrants moved on to suburbs further away. But the Mexican community expanded. In the 1920s, increased immigration spurred by employment opportunities, the encroachment of industry and commerce on downtown Los Angeles neighborhoods inhabited by earlier immigrants, and the accessibility of electrified commuter rail systems to carry workers to their jobs led to a swelling of the Mexican population of East Los Angeles. "

    "By 1930, some 30,000 residents of the community of Belvedere alone were of Mexican descent. Over time, the individual communities on the east side of the river melded into a large Mexican-American community. "

    https://lacountylibrary.org/eastla-local-history/


    By the 1920s through the 1960s,[20] Boyle Heights was racially and ethnically diverse as a center of Jewish, Mexican and Japanese immigrant life in the early 20th century, and also hosted significant Yugoslav, Armenian, African-American and Russian populations.[21][22] Bruce Phillips, a sociologist who tracked Jewish communities across the United States, said that Jewish families left Boyle Heights not because of racism, but instead because of banks redlining the neighborhood (denying home loans) and the construction of several freeways through the community.[23]


    This resulted in the development of Boyle Heights, a multicultural, interethnic neighborhood in East Los Angeles whose celebration of cultural difference has made it a role model for democracy.[24]


    ALSO LOOK at NOTABLE PEOPLE FROM BOYLE HEIGHTS,ALOT OF JEWISH-AMERICANS
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyle_...s,_Los_Angeles


    Also Italians lived in EAST LA
    https://artsandculture.google.com/ex...1_mfeMIg?hl=en











    History of the Jewish community in East L.A.




    Los Angeles - When Israel launches its 60th anniversary celebrations across America, the Los Angeles ceremony will be led not by one of this city’s many boldface-named Jews but by its Mexican-American mayor, Antonio Villaraigosa.

    The choice is unsurprising to those familiar with the 55-year-old politician, who enjoys an unusually strong connection to Jews and Jewish life. He speaks often about growing up in the once-Jewish neighborhood of Boyle Heights, has elevated a number of Jewish staffers to highly-placed positions and — most quirkily — has even made a habit of dropping by synagogue services. Indeed, according to some local Jewish leaders, Villaraigosa has become something of an honorary member of the tribe.

    “He’s basically treated as if he’s a Sephardic Jew,” said Jack Weiss, an L.A. City Council member who represents parts of the heavily Jewish San Fernando Valley and West L.A.

    “My affinity with Jews over the years goes back to the time when I was a young boy, when the few people who reached out to me beyond my mother and my family were Jews,” Villaraigosa said in a recent interview with the Forward. “Jewish teachers, Jewish librarians, Jewish people in positions of influence who saw talent in me.”

    This was partly because the mayor grew up in Boyle Heights in the 1950s, a neighborhood that was once predominantly Jewish and is now largely MEXICAN. A former union organizer for United Teachers Los Angeles and a past president of the local chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, Villaraigosa was elected in 1994 to the California State Assembly. After a failed mayoral bid in 2001, Villaraigosa was elected in 2003 to the L.A. City Council, where he represented much of the city’s mostly MEXICAN-AMERICAN Eastside.

    “He has the potential to go as far as he wants to go,” Weiss said in a recent interview, adding that Villaraigosa is “very connected, on a personal level, with the Jews of Los Angeles.”


    https://forward.com/news/12747/la-s-...e-tribe-01346/

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    Tragic to see fools feeling sorry there is not enough of racial diversity in a city or town or that it's too white, as if anyone can show that has any benefits or even no drawbacks. That London and Paris don't look like real European cities anymore is an unmitigated tragedy, that can only delight mixed race homos like the op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    Tootng carmen

    You don't know the history of East LA.

    East LA was very racially diverse 80-100 years ago.
    What it was like a century ago is a moot point. We are talking about the here and now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    Tragic to see fools feeling sorry there is not enough of racial diversity in a city or town or that it's too white, as if anyone can show that has any benefits or even no drawbacks. That London and Paris don't look like real European cities anymore is an unmitigated tragedy, that can only delight mixed race homos like the op.
    Completely missing the point. I am talking about the extreme segregation here - the fact East LA is almost exclusively Mexican/Central American is itself 'an unmitigated tragedy'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Completely missing the point. I am talking about the extreme segregation here - the fact East LA is almost exclusively Mexican/Central American is itself 'an unmitigated tragedy'.
    What's wrong or tragic about people living around their own kind? Is it because you are so mixed yourself, that you can't understand that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    What's wrong or tragic about people living around their own kind? Is it because you are so mixed yourself, that you can't understand that?
    To have such extreme ethnic disparities within the same city as shown here is a recipe for mistrust and hatred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Having said all this, the USA's real racial divide has been and almost certainly always will be White-Black. Perhaps I should show two neighbourhoods from Atlanta, New Orleans or Detroit to illustrate my point instead.
    If you were a decent person you would make a thread about how those cities and other American big cities, including LA, were destroyed by forced integration and mass non-white immigration which produced massive white flight, which in turn produced urban decay, skyrocketing crime etc. Now why the latter coincides with the urban population having fewer whites and more non-whites is a mystery only to you. Similar things have happened in Western European cities or their suburbs(like the banlieus of Paris). But then again I'm sure you have your woke, blame whitey "explanations". After all you even doubt real Britons and Frenchmen are even native in their homelands, when you write "native" whites.

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