‘No way I’m going back to Iraq’: Iraqi Kurds flee to Belarus

[renaissance12]

If wars in the Mideast and North African regions did not happen this would not be the situation, migration wise. However it seems darkness will blockout the sun, sadly, this darkness was created by Bush, Colin Powell, then Obama, Clinton.

Hail Trump

I agree...

[Varda]

Putin should care about his own country because Russia is more islamized than any european country.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/...redicts-a64706

Muslim in Russia are 10% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia

Most of the Muslims in Russia are native and large part of them live in own regions far away from Russian ethnic core. Unlike Russia, Muslims in Germany, France, Belgium, Netherlands, England etc. are not native but recent migrants from other continents and they are present in almost every corner of these western countries. Russians and Volga Tatars who are Muslims live together in peace 500 years, and westerners have huge problems with Muslims after the few years or decades.

[Dušan]

Muslim in Russia are 10% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia

Most of the Muslims in Russia are native and large part of them live in own regions far away from Russian ethnic core. Unlike Russia, Muslims in Germany, France, Belgium, Netherlands, England etc. are not native but recent migrants from other continents and they are present in almost every corner of these western countries. Russians and Volga Tatars who are Muslims live together 500 years, and westerners have huge problems with Muslims after the few years or decades.

And they do not have high fertility rate and extremely growing population, unlike Muslims in West.

Actually, numbers of two largest Muslim people in Russia declined in period between censuses 2002-2010.
Tatars: 5,554,601 -> 5,310,649
Bashkirs: 1,673,389 -> 1,584,554

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia

[Dušan]

Kazakhs and Azerbajinis also declining in Russia:

2002 -> 2010.
Kazakhs 653,962 -> 647,732
Azeris 621,840 -> 603,070

[Varda]

And they do not have high fertility rate and extremely growing population, unlike Muslims in West.

Actually, numbers of two largest Muslim people in Russia declined in period between censuses 2002-2010.
Tatars: 5,554,601 -> 5,310,649
Bashkirs: 1,673,389 -> 1,584,554

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia

Only non-native Muslims in Russia are recent central Asian gestarbeiters/workers whose present in Russia is temporarily. In 1960s, 1970s and 1980s in Germany was present about 2 million Yugoslavian gastarbeiters, vast majority of them returned home and when they worked in Germany their families were in Yugoslavia. Unlike them, non-European Muslims who settled in Germany came to never return in their native countries.

[StonyArabia]

I agree...

The migrant crisis is result of wars. Make wars and you will get the migrants. I explained the societal and political situation of Iraq and Kurdistan, and why many of them are migrating to the West. Even them who were pro-American believe they have been played. Europeans really should shame Bush, Blair, Checheny and that moron Colin Powell or more accurately Clown Powell rofl. After 2003, Iraq is a failed state in all levels sadly, which of course create a migration situation. Though the people should try and fix their nation rather than migrating. Lots of these Kurds, I believe lost hope and they see Europe as promise land, when the reality is different, since they have an idealized and misinformed views on Europe. Of course they don’t want to stay in Belarus or Poland but rather go even further into Germany, France, Britain(no longer EU), ect. Before the wars in Mideast, you barely had refugees or migrants anywhere. The Iraq war of 2003 was the greatest geopolitical disaster, because all of the Mideast conflicts are tied to it in one way or another. Libya is a different story, but the same. The migration of Iraqi Kurds to Europe, shows American failure in the Iraq war and the broken promises.

[Art23]

Let them go directly to the office of Lukashenka and demand explanations and money back from him. I think many Belarusians would support them.

[coolfrenchguy]

The migrant crisis is result of wars. Make wars and you will get the migrants. I explained the societal and political situation of Iraq and Kurdistan, and why many of them are migrating to the West. Even them who were pro-American believe they have been played. Europeans really should shame Bush, Blair, Checheny and that moron Colin Powell or more accurately Clown Powell rofl. After 2003, Iraq is a failed state in all levels sadly, which of course create a migration situation. Though the people should try and fix their nation rather than migrating. Lots of these Kurds, I believe lost hope and they see Europe as promise land, when the reality is different, since they have an idealized and misinformed views on Europe. Of course they don’t want to stay in Belarus or Poland but rather go even further into Germany, France, Britain(no longer EU), ect. Before the wars in Mideast, you barely had refugees or migrants anywhere. The Iraq war of 2003 was the greatest geopolitical disaster, because all of the Mideast conflicts are tied to it in one way or another. Libya is a different story, but the same. The migration of Iraqi Kurds to Europe, shows American failure in the Iraq war and the broken promises.

speaking of the deep state, the fall of Saddam Hussein for the insane profits made by Halliburton and the Carlyle group/network for example,even Hussein was a fucking bastard of dictator too by destroying all the irakian kurdistan and using chemical weapons against civilians amid all his atrocities ,at least with him the area was more stable ,and the Iraqi state was a functional state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carlyle_Group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton

[coolfrenchguy]

Putin should care about his own country because Russia is more islamized than any european country.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/...redicts-a64706

thanks for this news media it seem interresting to read and maybe a bit more objective i recommand to all of you also the trilingual ENG/FR/GER

https://visegradpost.com/en/home

https://visegradpost.com/en/2021/11/...-from-belarus/

[StonyArabia]

speaking of the deep state, the fall of Saddam Hussein for the insane profits made by Halliburton and the Carlyle group/network for example,even Hussein was a fucking bastard of dictator too by destroying all the irakian kurdistan and using chemical weapons against civilians amid all his atrocities ,at least with him the area was more stable ,and the Iraqi state was a functional state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carlyle_Group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton

Well Iraq, was mostly going to sell the oil in gold. Plus Iraq had a want to annex parts of the Arabian peninsula, and of course it was also for Israel’s interest.

Iraqi Kurdistan should not be called that because realistically it should only include the northeast. Historically this region was rather Assyrian. However other groups also live there, and the Kurds can not even claim sole indignity. Heck even Arab tribes have lived in north of Iraq before them. This is especially true of the Tayy, Banu Taghlib, abd the Hadmanids. The real homeland of the Kurds is northwestern Iran and Azerbaijan. This can be proven by DNA which makes them related to Persians and Azeris.

This was part of the Iraq-Iran war. A useless war that everyone suffered in. Iran had used chemical weapons on Iraq but no one seem to care. Not to mention the Americans and allies used depleted uranium on Iraqi Arab civilians especially in Fallujah and Najaf, and to lesser extent Basra.

Plus U.S and Britain helped the Kurds get autonomy in 1991. So effectively they were no longer under Iraqi rule. Thus Iraq can not be blamed for the failures of Kurdistan. The Americans only created an illusion of peace and prosperity, abd they did not want to alienate the current Iraqi central government which is Shia Arab led, so they allowed it to strangle the Kurdish economy. This not to mention neither Turkey or Iran want independence. Many minorities resent this, like the Turkmens, Assyrians, and Christian Arabs

The migration into Europe from Kurdistan shows American failure. Iraq is completely failed state, but so is Kurdistan.