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    Well Christianity basically states because Eve bit into the apple (which was lured by the devil), humans received their intelligence and curiosity. Intelligence is both a blessing and a curse.. because of this we have evolved into a species of greed, power and lust and full of sin. We bring this madness upon ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perunovsin View Post
    Or is it?
    It is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hereto View Post
    It is.
    Oh you know him, have you walked his shoes for a day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perunovsin View Post
    Oh you know him, have you walked his shoes for a day?
    I'm willing to, I mean I can just not do anything all day and look at the humans for fun, It wouldn't really matter to me I just make them.

    If that's what your asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hereto View Post
    I'm willing to, I mean I can just not do anything all day and look at the humans for fun, It wouldn't really matter to me I just make them.

    If that's what your asking.
    Or that's what your perspective tells you, people mostly do the best they can in the given moment, the performance with God must be the same, or better, either he wouldn't be a God, that is, if He even exists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perunovsin View Post
    Or that's what your perspective tells you, people mostly do the best they can in the given moment, the performance with God must be the same, or better, either he wouldn't be a God, that is, if He even exists
    great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batavia View Post
    If you believe in God then how do you explain to yourself that the world is so terrible and cold. Why do you think he doesn't show himself?
    God is only a theory and a bad one in my opinion - there is no proof, that he exists. Belief does not necessarily have to be anti-scientific, but there is proof for evolution.
    Try to change my mind...
    God invented something called karma. The matter is not why terrible things happen, the question is why do people allow it to happen. Don't blame the owner, blame us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    Well Christianity basically states because Eve bit into the apple (which was lured by the devil), humans received their intelligence and curiosity. Intelligence is both a blessing and a curse.. because of this we have evolved into a species of greed, power and lust and full of sin. We bring this madness upon ourselves.
    The problem isn't knowledge. Angels have knowledge of more things than any human can know about probably. The problem is sin. The point is that they sinned when they bit into the apple because God commanded them not to eat it, and then sin entered into the world.

    "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" Romans 5:12

    The problem of man is always described as sin in the Bible, not knowledge or knowledge of evil. If the problem was knowledge/knowledge of what's evil then Christ was crucified for nothing. Because it says Christ (Who is God as a human/in the flesh) died for sinners and took upon the sins of the all men and the punishment for sins so they may be saved, because the punishment for sin is eternal separation from God/Hell. And all men have sinned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batavia View Post
    If you believe in God then how do you explain to yourself that the world is so terrible and cold. Why do you think he doesn't show himself?
    God is only a theory and a bad one in my opinion - there is no proof, that he exists. Belief does not necessarily have to be anti-scientific, but there is proof for evolution.
    Try to change my mind...
    Satan exists as well as God.

    Jesus Christ actually did exist and apostles spreading the same message at the same time across different places on the globe did in fact happen.

    Being closer to God ensures you are further away from evil. Being further away from God ensures you conjure up stupid thoughts like the looney left does which is playing in Satans hands.
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

    Definition of untrustworthy and loose character are those that don't believe in God.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Batavia View Post
    If you believe in God then how do you explain to yourself that the world is so terrible and cold. Why do you think he doesn't show himself?
    God is only a theory and a bad one in my opinion - there is no proof, that he exists. Belief does not necessarily have to be anti-scientific, but there is proof for evolution.
    Try to change my mind...
    There's no way for you to say with certainty that the world is "terrible" and "cold", like, you would have to evaluate all the good and bad things about the world, come to a conclusion as to the importance of such things (like, does the happiness of children and the sadness of adults hold the same level of importance in the grand scheme of things?), and you can't do those things without objective metrics, points of reference, which we don't have since there's not another planet with rational living beings for us to compare their situation to ours (at least, not that we know about).

    Now answering your two other questions, about there's not being a "proof" for God's existence and why he doesn't "show" himself: Well, most theories actually don't have a definitive proof, we accept them because they work well with our current framework for thinking certain things, like imaginary numbers in Maths and most of Quantum Physics, religion is another framework in a way, and it works well to explain certain things, so there's really no need for a "proof" of God's existence to the people that believe in God...

    That also responds your objection about God doesn't showing himself, since empirical knowledge is not necessary to work within certain frameworks of thought.
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