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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentum View Post
    Che calmate no hagas semejante ridículo, ni a el ni a nadie le importa lo que pensas al respecto de si se considera español o no, ya me disculpas pero has cruzado la raya del ridículo. Vos solo has vivido 50 años de historia de tu país, no los otros 600 o 700, se lógico amigo
    Ya lo he dicho y lo repito, aquí la opinión que más cuenta es la de los españoles. Acaso nosotros vamos a Venezuela a decir quién es y quién no es venezolano, no verdad? pues entonces no vayas de listo.

    Los españoles de a pie no consideran español a nadie que no lo sea, como en cualquier otro país del mundo, después hay filias y fobias pero ese es otro tema.
    Last edited by Gallop; 11-25-2021 at 03:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0 View Post
    Do you consider alnortedelsur ethnically spaniard?
    I'll give the most rational response to this question: has Spanish ancestry but is not a Spaniard.


    He's a Venezuelan-American. He could be 100% Spanish and he still wouldn't be a Spaniard because he wasn't born and raised in Spain. He could say he's a Venezuelan-American with Spanish ancestry if he likes. That would be fine.

    The exception is if his parents were from Spain and he was born in Venezuela but his family went back to Spain when he was a child. It's not just about blood. It's also about the culture you were raised in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    That is why I laugh so much at you, you are so boring that always expect coherent answers and arguments, you could not be more simple and plain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Man, that is exactly my thought: people who are of FULL Spanish stock.

    But you are not one of these.


    I could not care less what you sudacas think about who is Spaniard or Martian. Of course you will think anyone could be what they want


    You can not be both.


    Spanish lefties, every lefty of the world really, will claim a Sudanese is Spaniard just if he thinks he is.
    Papers mean nothing.


    It is something more important even, it is Castilla.


    THANKS FOR PROVING HE CAN NOT BE SPANIARD NOT EVEN IN SICK MINDS.


    Los españoles no somos venezolanos, ni vietnamitas. Si no eres 100% español, no eres español, es algo muy sencillo.

    Mírate tu apellido italiano y dime entonces que eres español, ¡JUAS!





    Dont listen lefties. You can be sure Obama is called black here in Spain.


    Funny how panchitos and triracials quickly call him Spanish


    Great, great, great lefty-like comment. The same could be applied to Germans, British, Russians etc. "We all are mixed GÑEEEE", "We are not pure at all GÑEEE".


    Which part of "to be Spanish you have to be 100% Spanish" dont you undertand?



    No, I dont consider you Spaniard. Not because your imaginary and fictional Italian ancestry but because your Basque one.

    Andalusians are Spaniards.

    Jealous of them?
    He is, he has a venezuelan father and spaniard mother.
    Unless hes like jibaro and is really 7/8 th spaniard from recent grandparents and great grandparents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Ya lo he dicho y lo repito, aquí la opinión que más cuenta es la de los españoles. Acaso nosotros vamos a Venezuela a decir quién es y quién no es venezolano, no verdad? pues entonces no vayas de listo.

    Los españoles de a pie no consideran español a nadie que no lo sea, como en cualquier otro país del mundo, después hay filias y fobias pero ese es otro tema.
    Pero que ya sabemos tu opinion al respecto, lo has dicho ya varias veces e insistis en que el pibe este no puede ser español, a quien putas le importa, vos crees que una persona que esta a punto de nacer y le dan para elegir donde, de verdad crees va a escoger español como opcion por encima de ser canadiense o estadounidense? Ni vos, amigo gallop, ni vos. Que si que si que vos tenes muchos rubios, muchas iglesias, duermen mucho por las tardes, pero que no estan en boca de los demas, nosotros mucho menos cabe destacar
    Last edited by Argentum; 11-25-2021 at 06:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Obviously I was joking and no, Basques have not been overrepresented in Spanish history. Castilians were. Basques always have been our vassals. Same than Galicians.
    Valladolid is not Castilla!!!.
    "Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I'll give the most rational response to this question: has Spanish ancestry but is not a Spaniard.


    He's a Venezuelan-American. He could be 100% Spanish and he still wouldn't be a Spaniard because he wasn't born and raised in Spain. He could say he's a Venezuelan-American with Spanish ancestry if he likes. That would be fine.

    The exception is if his parents were from Spain and he was born in Venezuela but his family went back to Spain when he was a child. It's not just about blood. It's also about the culture you were raised in.
    He is a prodigal son that has returned his home, that was the home of most of his ancestor.

    We can opine about if we consider him Spanish or not, but what actually is important it´s his opinion.

    He considers himself as Venezuelan/Spanish, so he is Spanish, as well as he is Venezuelan.

    It makes me funny that usually Americans immediately put Spanish and Latin Americans in the same category of Hispanics, but in this particular case it seems that you don´t like to put us in the same category.

    But it´s not USA, here aren´t you who put lables to others.

    I may not consider him as completely Spanish, because he consider himself as Venezuelan/Spanish, but I have not any problem in consider him as compatriot.

    The "Hispanidad" is our common homeland, so we are compatriots.

    Most of these are arguments can seem separately with little weight, but together they point out one thing: that despite everything and despite everyone, the link continues to exist, call it Hispanic or Spanish, but we continue to be part of something common, that we makes us feel close.

    The moment he realizes that fatality and tragedy are an essential part of the substance of being Spanish, as well as all the good things that we praise about ourselves, he will be a complete Spaniard. If he hasn't already, of course.
    "Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Valladolid is not Castilla!!!.
    Lo cierto es que curiosamente ni Valladolid ni Palencia aparecen en algunos mapas antiguos de Castilla la Vieja:





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    As always, the major problem with WNs is that they can't be racist for one minute even if their lives would depend on it. How can someone not be Spanish if they have Spanish citizenship? You can be ethnically Basque, Hispanic, Moroccan, Romanian, biracial and so on, but also be Spanish if you have Spanish citizenship. The same applies to any other nation, only racists discriminate people based on the Nazi "one-drop rule", it's simply pathetic. Luckily in real life they are just the whining small, but unfortunately way too loud minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Lacas View Post
    Lo cierto es que curiosamente ni Valladolid ni Palencia aparecen en algunos mapas antiguos de Castilla la Vieja:

    MG]
    Castilla se creó con la base del condado de Castilla, que a su vez probablemente se formó de lo que se llamaba difusamente Vardulia, y que básicamente comprendía partes occidentales del País Vasco, norte de Burgos y Cantabria.

    Valladolid, o las aldeas que habría en esa época estaban muy lejos de lo que fue originalmente llamado Castilla.

    Hasta el siglo XI, no empezarían todas esas zonas a entrar dentro de lo que se consideraba Castilla.
    "Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    those of us who painted the Altamira caves
    Prehistoric Spanish blondes I suppose

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