Plymouth vs Jamestown

[Anglo-Celtic]

Indeed! The factory workers in the north had it way worse than any slave. Slaves were treated just like family. They even got holidays too.

You know how it is. There's a lot of "Southern man bad" on these forums.

[Smitty]

I wouldn't say Plymouth Colony was chosen deliberately by anyone and definitely not to the exclusion of Jamestown. If the Pilgrims have taken a more prominent position in our history, it's because of the Mayflower Compact, which influenced our government, and the fact that they present a better picture of the American story, whether typical or not. Families coming here for religious freedom is perhaps a more inspiring history than single men coming here to improve their temporal lives.

[Smitty]

Leave it to Richmondbread and Daco-Celtic to turn Thanksgiving and the Pilgrims into a North vs. South debate. I for one have never thought of it in those terms, nor have I ever heard anyone actively ignoring Jamestown. I think of both events as our founding moments. I do think the Puritans, perhaps to Daco's point, were more representative of American religious sentiments as a whole. Sectarianism and hardcore, serious religion were the norm across the country. Southern Baptists don't have a lot in common with Anglicans.

[Daco Celtic]

Leave it to Richmondbread and Daco-Celtic to turn Thanksgiving and the Pilgrims into a North vs. South debate. I for one have never thought of it in those terms, nor have I ever heard anyone actively ignoring Jamestown. I think of both events as our founding moments. I do think the Puritans, perhaps to Daco's point, were more representative of American religious sentiments as a whole. Sectarianism and hardcore, serious religion were the norm across the country. Southern Baptists don't have a lot in common with Anglicans.

What is more American than a good debate at Thanksgiving?

[Anglo-Celtic]

What is more American than a good debate at Thanksgiving?

Not much comes to mind. Falling asleep, during the Dallas-Detroit game, is right up there.

[Daco Celtic]

Not much comes to mind. Falling asleep, during the Dallas-Detroit game, is right up there.

It's about drinking, eating, football, and having a bunch of different arguments with my uncles

[Anglo-Celtic]

It's about drinking, eating, football, and having a bunch of different arguments with my uncles

I hear you. We have several mixed marriages (D and R) in our family too.

[Richmondbread]

Leave it to Richmondbread and Daco-Celtic to turn Thanksgiving and the Pilgrims into a North vs. South debate. I for one have never thought of it in those terms, nor have I ever heard anyone actively ignoring Jamestown. I think of both events as our founding moments. I do think the Puritans, perhaps to Daco's point, were more representative of American religious sentiments as a whole. Sectarianism and hardcore, serious religion were the norm across the country. Southern Baptists don't have a lot in common with Anglicans.

Did you know the pilgrims were lost ? They were supposed to land in Virginia, but ended up 600 miles to the north. The Yankees were born that way.

[Smitty]

Did you know the pilgrims were lost ? They were supposed to land in Virginia, but ended 600 miles north. The Yankees were born that way.

Yes, I knew that. That's basic history. I'm proud of both my New England and my Virginia ancestry. Anyway, you're not a true blue Southerner, with your immigrant Chicago blood. So don't get too cocky.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Yes, I knew that. That's basic history. I'm proud of both my New England and my Virginia ancestry. Anyway, you're not a true blue Southerner, with your immigrant Chicago blood. So don't get too cocky.

I'm more Southern than Richmond, and I'm more Celtic than Daco Celtic. Don't tell anyone.