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    Default Ancestry, do my results look entirely British?

    42% Scotland
    24% England & Northwestern Europe
    24% France
    8% Ireland
    2% Germanic Europe

    My ancestry traces back entirely to Britain and Ireland on paper. I don't know where the French is coming from? Is it normal for someone of British Isles descent to show some French?

    I may have some Huguenot ancestry but there's no way it's almost 25%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer of Songs View Post
    42% Scotland
    24% England & Northwestern Europe
    24% France
    8% Ireland
    2% Germanic Europe

    My ancestry traces back entirely to Britain and Ireland on paper. I don't know where the French is coming from? Is it normal for someone of British Isles descent to show some French?

    I may have some Huguenot ancestry but there's no way it's almost 25%
    How long has your family been in Canada? I don't think that much French is common for fully British testers tbh, at least I've not seen it before. Gedmatch Eurogenes calculators might be useful to see if your score is normal or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    How long has your family been in Canada? I don't think that much French is common for fully British testers tbh, at least I've not seen it before. Gedmatch Eurogenes calculators might be useful to see if your score is normal or not.
    My dad is Scottish and English and my mom is Scottish and Irish. The English is the oldest in Canada having come over in the 1700s. most of the rest is mid-1800s, with the newest being my direct paternal side which came over from Aberdeenshire, Scotland in about the 1880s, I think.

    I can trace the lines all back to Europe though so I don't know how any French Canadian ancestry could have snuck in, and I doubt this is enough to warrant suspicions of a non-paternity event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer of Songs View Post
    My dad is Scottish and English and my mom is Scottish and Irish. The English is the oldest in Canada having come over in the 1700s. most of the rest is mid-1800s, with the newest being my direct paternal side which came over from Aberdeenshire, Scotland in about the 1880s, I think.

    I can trace the lines all back to Europe though so I don't know how any French Canadian ancestry could have snuck in, and I doubt this is enough to warrant suspicions of a non-paternity event.
    There is a Canadian guy on this forum who has a decent chunk of French ancestry on paper, yet he doesn't get hardly any on Ancestry and gets nearly entirely British, so maybe it's wrong. Like I said Gedmatch might shed more light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    There is a Canadian guy on this forum who has a decent chunk of French ancestry on paper, yet he doesn't get hardly any on Ancestry and gets nearly entirely British, so maybe it's wrong. Like I said Gedmatch might shed more light.
    That's interesting, thanks.

    I ran my results through Eurogenes V2 K15 and the top results for single populations are Southwest English, Southeast English, Orcadian and North Dutch

    4 population: Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German
    Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German

    and similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer of Songs View Post
    That's interesting, thanks.

    I ran my results through Eurogenes V2 K15 and the top results for single populations are Southwest English, Southeast English, Orcadian and North Dutch

    4 population: Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German
    Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German

    and similar
    Looks more normal, what is your full score in K13?

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 50.51
    2 Baltic 18.86
    3 West_Med 13.96
    4 West_Asian 6.05
    5 East_Med 5.71
    6 South_Asian 1.90
    7 Red_Sea 1.37


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southeast_English @ 4.958058
    2 Southwest_English @ 5.100119
    3 West_Scottish @ 6.885857
    4 Orcadian @ 6.937786
    5 Irish @ 7.200169
    6 South_Dutch @ 7.382830
    7 North_Dutch @ 8.632317
    8 West_German @ 8.820272
    9 Danish @ 8.904629
    10 North_German @ 10.053373
    11 French @ 10.995812
    12 Norwegian @ 11.488918
    13 Swedish @ 14.094769
    14 Austrian @ 17.555485
    15 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.307144
    16 East_German @ 18.781601
    17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.576719
    18 Southwest_French @ 20.119377
    19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 20.187876
    20 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.217224

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.953534
    2 Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.015923
    3 Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.114662
    4 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.132293
    5 Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.137671
    6 Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.155835
    7 Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.200891
    8 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.212436
    9 Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.230831
    10 Irish + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.252524
    11 North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.256407
    12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.272900
    13 Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.277546
    14 Irish + Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.282022
    15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.286705
    16 Irish + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.287080
    17 Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.300123
    18 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.346041
    19 Danish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.346790
    20 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.366378

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer of Songs View Post
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 50.51
    2 Baltic 18.86
    3 West_Med 13.96
    4 West_Asian 6.05
    5 East_Med 5.71
    6 South_Asian 1.90
    7 Red_Sea 1.37


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southeast_English @ 4.958058
    2 Southwest_English @ 5.100119
    3 West_Scottish @ 6.885857
    4 Orcadian @ 6.937786
    5 Irish @ 7.200169
    6 South_Dutch @ 7.382830
    7 North_Dutch @ 8.632317
    8 West_German @ 8.820272
    9 Danish @ 8.904629
    10 North_German @ 10.053373
    11 French @ 10.995812
    12 Norwegian @ 11.488918
    13 Swedish @ 14.094769
    14 Austrian @ 17.555485
    15 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.307144
    16 East_German @ 18.781601
    17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.576719
    18 Southwest_French @ 20.119377
    19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 20.187876
    20 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.217224

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.953534
    2 Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.015923
    3 Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.114662
    4 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.132293
    5 Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.137671
    6 Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.155835
    7 Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.200891
    8 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.212436
    9 Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.230831
    10 Irish + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.252524
    11 North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.256407
    12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.272900
    13 Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.277546
    14 Irish + Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.282022
    15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.286705
    16 Irish + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.287080
    17 Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.300123
    18 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.346041
    19 Danish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.346790
    20 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.366378
    A bit inconclusive. You have low Baltic for a British person but average/above average North Atlantic. So if you have did have significant French ancestry it would probably be from NW France/Brittany. Have you done any other commercial tests? If you scored abnormal French in two it's worth believing, if not it can probably be taken with a pinch of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    A bit inconclusive. You have low Baltic for a British person but average/above average North Atlantic. So if you have did have significant French ancestry it would probably be from NW France/Brittany. Have you done any other commercial tests? If you scored abnormal French in two it's worth believing, if not it can probably be taken with a pinch of salt.
    I uploaded my raw data to a company called Living DNA. Idk how accurate they are but my results were entirely "Great Britain and Ireland" except for a small 1.9% Basque.

    EDIT: I also did ydna and mtdna testing with FamilyTreeDNA but that's not helpful here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer of Songs View Post
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 50.51
    2 Baltic 18.86
    3 West_Med 13.96
    4 West_Asian 6.05
    5 East_Med 5.71
    6 South_Asian 1.90
    7 Red_Sea 1.37


    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southeast_English @ 4.958058
    2 Southwest_English @ 5.100119
    3 West_Scottish @ 6.885857
    4 Orcadian @ 6.937786
    5 Irish @ 7.200169
    6 South_Dutch @ 7.382830
    7 North_Dutch @ 8.632317
    8 West_German @ 8.820272
    9 Danish @ 8.904629
    10 North_German @ 10.053373
    11 French @ 10.995812
    12 Norwegian @ 11.488918
    13 Swedish @ 14.094769
    14 Austrian @ 17.555485
    15 Spanish_Cataluna @ 18.307144
    16 East_German @ 18.781601
    17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.576719
    18 Southwest_French @ 20.119377
    19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 20.187876
    20 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.217224

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.953534
    2 Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.015923
    3 Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.114662
    4 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.132293
    5 Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.137671
    6 Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.155835
    7 Danish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.200891
    8 Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.212436
    9 Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.230831
    10 Irish + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.252524
    11 North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.256407
    12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.272900
    13 Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.277546
    14 Irish + Portuguese + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.282022
    15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.286705
    16 Irish + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.287080
    17 Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.300123
    18 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.346041
    19 Danish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 3.346790
    20 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.366378
    Some values were cut off, it doesn't add up to 100%. Plus mixed mode is generally better. Do it again please.

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