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    Default In your opinion, is the democracy vs dictatorship dichotomy a question of scale or absolutes?

    I would argue it is more a question of scale. Some democracies are freer and more open than others, and conversely the same is true of dictatorships. What's more, there are cases where the government is an ambiguous hybrid of both democracy and dictatorship, e.g. Mexico under the PRI and Singapore under the PAP.

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    Agreed, scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andullero View Post
    Agreed, scale.
    I'd say your former leader Balaguer is another example of a hybrid of democracy and dictatorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I'd say your former leader Balaguer is another example of a hybrid of democracy and dictatorship.
    Yep, almost textbook. It was quite disingenuous on his part too, since power is best exercised when done so openly, and not by omissions. Still, he was the best man in a very disagreeable situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andullero View Post
    Yep, almost textbook. It was quite disingenuous on his part too, since power is best exercised when done so openly, and not by omissions. Still, he was the best man in a very disagreeable situation.
    What do you mean 'disagreeable situation'?

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    Dictatorships are more direct with their citizens(Belarus for example) while democracies divide et impera their citizens into the left that sees racists everywhere and the right that sees socialists everywhere so they can fight amongst each other meanwhile their "elected" politicians sell them all out to the highest corporate bidder such as big pharma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    What do you mean 'disagreeable situation'?
    The civil war aftermath and the larger Cold War backdrop. It could have been worse, we could have ended up with one of those outright criminal regimes from Central América.
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    It's all about scale, as Rousseau said:

    Democracies are the best system available when we're dealing with a small amount of ppl
    Aristocracies are the best system available when we're dealing with a medium amount of ppl
    Absolute Monarchies are the best system available when we're dealing with a big amount of ppl

    And direct democracy is the real democracy... in massive countries like the US or Brazil, the idea of a representative democracy is truly pathetic, in the grand scheme of things the vote of a single person literally changes nothing, there's no real democracy in such a system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvnny View Post
    It's all about scale, as Rousseau said:

    Democracies are the best system available when we're dealing with a small amount of ppl
    Aristocracies are the best system available when we're dealing with a medium amount of ppl
    Absolute Monarchies are the best system available when we're dealing with a big amount of ppl

    And direct democracy is the real democracy... in massive countries like the US or Brazil, the idea of a representative democracy is truly pathetic, in the grand scheme of things the vote of a single person literally changes nothing, there's no real democracy in such a system.
    I'm not exactly pro-democracy, nor pro-dictatorship, but I still believe the two could be the "best system available" in certain situations

    And, in regards to democracy, that representative democracy is a joke and democracy only works together with localism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bvnny View Post
    I'm not exactly pro-democracy, nor pro-dictatorship, but I still believe the two could be the "best system available" in certain situations

    And, in regards to democracy, that representative democracy is a joke and democracy only works together with localism.
    Yeah I agree with that.

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