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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Dictatorships are more direct with their citizens(Belarus for example) while democracies divide et impera their citizens into the left that sees racists everywhere and the right that sees socialists everywhere so they can fight amongst each other meanwhile their "elected" politicians sell them all out to the highest corporate bidder such as big pharma.
    Sounds about based

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andullero View Post
    That's a zombified Cold War relic that definitely needs to go.
    I don't think communism in Cuba would have lasted that long without the embargo. If even the powerful KGB or the STASI were not able to stop the change in the USSR and the DDR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Jibaro View Post
    I don't think communism in Cuba would have lasted that long without the embargo. If even the powerful KGB or the STASI were not able to stop the change in the USSR and the DDR.
    I've been to Cuba. Their citizens are dirt poor thanks to their regime. The Dominican Republic is a rich man's paradise compared to Cuba for example.

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    Democracy is about to become obsolete. In the late twentieth century democracies usually outperformed dictatorships because democracies were better at data processing. Soon AI will swing the pendulum in the opposite direction.

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    I rather live under a nationalist European dictatorship like the Franco regime, than a toxic multicultural "democracy" of the Western kind, of this era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I would argue it is more a question of scale. Some democracies are freer and more open than others, and conversely the same is true of dictatorships. What's more, there are cases where the government is an ambiguous hybrid of both democracy and dictatorship, e.g. Mexico under the PRI and Singapore under the PAP.
    Democracy is not going to survive the rise of AI (artificial intelligence) . Future digital dictatorships will be absolute but will not be like the regimes of Hitler and Stalin. Digital dictatorships will be as different from Nazi Germany as Nazi Germany was different from ancien régime France. Since , digital dictatorships will be absolute it is kind of a moot point to talk about PRI Mexico and PAP Singapre. Also, those getting themselves ready to fight the battles of the 1930s will probably be caught off guard by an attack from a totally different direction. Even by some miracle Democracy manages to survive and adapt there will be unprecedented levels of oppression and discrimination based on the use of algorithms.

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    People by nature is autocratic, if just let people be, they will form centralized powers like communism, therefore communism can boast about being the true democracy. Democracy is there neither by scale nor by absolute, but by aspects. A group of ideological manipulators can produce all kinds of system under the bandera of democracy, this is how the world is being run by the international communists today. Even most countries are constitutionally democratic, yet there will still be some autocratic blocs like russia and china and nkorea, so people get the impression that democracy is not uniform in practices across different cultures, however, this is a lie and illusion they want to induce.

    The world as a whole can be seen as a greater USA, while russia and china and nkorea be seen as prisons, and the law enforced in this greater USA is not a kind of common legislative and legal processes, but a kind of caste system maintained by the rules of finance, that is, people do not get imprisoned for doing crimes, but for owing money. So the most basic reason for autocratic systems could be no other than having owed money to the west, the only way to pay back is to rob the nation, through corruption and deception. However, even after the western debts were paid back, corruptions and usurpers will continue to plague the country and thus further pit the whole country into a downward turn to self-destruction. This rule of money would also affect the west itself, making their democracy extremely liberalistic and materialistic. People will never sustain a "true democracy", you need to get this idea seared into your heart, therefore there exists only a kind of realizable level of democracy which is the closest to the notion of democracy that most people want. The universal democracy simply does not exist even ideologically, only people misunderstand this notion and some people try to exploit this misunderstanding to their benefit. So, we can only say the "democracy people want", not "what is the true democracy", there is no true democracy anywhere, never believe any movement in the name of democracy.

    The real face of democracy is all about peoples desires, for food, for money, for prosperity, identity, security, sex, experiences, expression, that it is, beyond that, we have religions, belief systems, and death, we do not need to sanctify democracy and ourself as people, note that how marxists sanctify labor and people and democracy, that is to exploit peoples delusions. Democracy by itself is not morally superior nor inferior, just being all about our natural expression of desires.

    But the realizable level is equal to gradation? It is a bit tricky to start from here, my theory of democracy is by aspects, also these aspects imply the means, which develop into complicated ideological and technical aspects again. Therefore, we can say, western democracy is the democracy by the aspects/means of capitals(capitalism) and technology; whereas the autocratic russia and china, were meanless, no aspects to start with a western democracy, therefore, they can only start with communism formulated by kmarx, as an ideological means and then under this formulation, communist easterners borrowed money from the west. kmarx is an ideological financist, communism in local senses is democracy through the marxist ideological means which also designates the ideology of the upper class of the international capitalist system. This also explains why local communists believe they represent the ideological advancements of the modern age. Except for christian and buddhist orders, the international communists run the world under the bandera of human liberation which naturally endorses communism and cultural marxism over the whole world.

    From my theory, we can also understand the point of progressivism in the light of western democracy: the progressiveness of the aspects and means of democracy, to develop more ideological and technical means to support the idea of human liberation ideology through the support of local communism and universal liberalist and materialistic democracy: More means of deception to make people believe in their delusions, that it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    I rather live under a nationalist European dictatorship like the Franco regime, than a toxic multicultural "democracy" of the Western kind, of this era.
    There are many things I disagree with the Franco regime, like its exacerbated centralism and such, but I agree.

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    Therefore, it is extremely important to differentiate our true desires from the delusional greed and desires, delusions will only turn you into other peoples slave without you being aware of. To know yourself: what is your true happiness? is very very important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    I've been to Cuba. Their citizens are dirt poor thanks to their regime. The Dominican Republic is a rich man's paradise compared to Cuba for example.
    The DR may have a higher GDP per capita, and may have more fancy skyscrapers and hotels etc. Nevertheless, on certain key measurements such as health, education, crime levels Cuba still outperforms the DR.

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