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    My answer is clear, democracy can not be realized at any level of feasibility without exploiting certain instrumentations, after all, it is all about the localization and instrumentalization of human ideologies and natural resources. The democracy in popular sense simply do not exist anywhere and it is also meaningless, no one need to really struggle for that false vision. Local communism like china and russia are just a projection of human truth through the means of western progressivism, however this human truth does not mean any more humane ideology than western democracy by the means of capitalism. This perspective helps us to understand who we really are and what we can and should do: democracy is a grand illusion, whether it be by human nature and treason to become like communism or by instrumentalization to become capitalist, in either form democracy does not mean to provide us as people any definitive answer to all the questions we are concerned with the most, rather it is like a Faustian exchange, we just get something out of selling something. This is why we always have more problems than answer as "global civilization" grows stronger and stronger. This is no parallel to scientific inquiries, where people say scientists learn from good questions, pose good questions, here people are doing trades with full conscious mind, the accountability is not a part of the natural science. Now this is the starting point to revisit our history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    The DR may have a higher GDP per capita, and may have more fancy skyscrapers and hotels etc. Nevertheless, on certain key measurements such as health, education, crime levels Cuba still outperforms the DR.
    Lol What's the point of a better education if you live like a worthless poor dog? Those Cubans would give up their first born to move to a capitalist country. Western commie larpers like yourself make me laugh. Go visit Cuba and see for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Jibaro View Post
    I prefer a good dictatorship to a crap democracy. Because deep down it's the same but undercover.
    For this reason I prefer absolute monarchy. In democracy you get fags, pornographers, feminist butches, homosexuals, misandry, single mothers. This all happened in Iraq, when democracy came to it, so to hell with it. We can also see the results in the West. I believe some people can only be ruled by an iron fist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    For this reason I prefer absolute monarchy. In democracy you get fags, pornographers, feminist butches, homosexuals, misandry, single mothers.
    I'm sure you can find all those things in abundance in modern China.

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    Democracy would be better called Partycracy, and it's not about to do the better for society in general, which is quite difficult itself. It's about political parties to win next election no matter how.

    People have the chance to elect the best but it's quite difficult too. All parties have some level of corruption, they lie and manipulate all the time in a cracy competition to win.

    But in democracy governs can be removed by people and it happens frequently, that's why democracy is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    Democracy would be better called Partycracy, and it's not about to do the better for society in general, which is quite difficult itself. It's about political parties to win next election no matter how.

    People have the chance to elect the best but it's quite difficult too. All parties have some level of corruption, they lie and manipulate all the time in a cracy competition to win.

    But in democracy governs can be removed by people and it happens frequently, that's why democracy is better.
    Nevertheless, do you agree with my main premise that both democracy and dictatorship are nuances and gradations rather than absolutes? Democracy in Switzerland is rather different to democracy in Colombia (to say the least), while the dictatorship in Brunei is rather less oppressive than that of North Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Nevertheless, do you agree with my main premise that both democracy and dictatorship are nuances and gradations rather than absolutes? Democracy in Switzerland is rather different to democracy in Colombia (to say the least), while the dictatorship in Brunei is rather less oppressive than that of North Korea.
    Of colurse, the ancestral culture/traditions and geopolitics are very influential on it. And also the peculiar lunacy of some leaders, case of North Korea.

    Others like Saudi Arabia and the like are very opressives by cultural tradition I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    Of colurse, the ancestral culture/traditions and geopolitics are very influential on it. And also the peculiar lunacy of some leaders, case of North Korea.

    Others like Saudi Arabia and the like are very opressives by cultural tradition I think.
    Even between Franco and Salazar, despite following similar ideologies and being neighbouring countries, the latter's regime was notably milder and less authoritarian than the former's (colonial wars in Africa notwithstanding).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Even between Franco and Salazar, despite following similar ideologies and being neighbouring countries, the latter's regime was notably milder and less authoritarian than the former's (colonial wars in Africa notwithstanding).
    Yes, but Portugal doesn't have perifheral nationalism separatism, and that increased significantly the paranoidal repression of Franco's regime.
    El contubernio rojo-separatista bla bla bla

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    Yes, but Portugal doesn't have perifheral nationalism separatism, and that increased significantly the paranoidal repression of Franco's regime.
    El contubernio rojo-separatista bla bla bla
    The only thing that still hasn't really been established is whether the majority of killings and forced disappearances committed by Franco's forces were specifically during the Civil War, or executions in the 1939-75 period.

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