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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Socialism is not the only alternative to capitalism. Capitalism didn't exist before the 18th century and it is only becoming really hegemonic in the few past decades, one good diagnostic of its success at that is how you and many people are literally incapable of imagining the world without capitalism (although we've lived just fine without it for 99.9999999% of our existence). Feudalism endured far more time than capitalism as a system and i see it as far superior in terms of preserving and enforcing traditional values.
    I recommmend you to take interests and a deeper view to John Stuart Mill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stuart_Mill and also and again the betrayed ideals of Franklin D. Roosevelt adapted to a closer and more modern world of course :
    It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.

    This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.

    As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
    We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. "Necessitous men are not free men."[8] People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
    In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.
    Among these are:


    All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
    America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens. For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.



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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    If you consider the cost of living and GDP... Nordic country don't pay too much..


    Purchasing power map..


    Cost of living? That should actually put others help us, people who are living in very north. Just as cold climate really is not something which will make living easy or cheap as such. Very much opposite. And GDP? That is caused by people themselves ... as humans. Not our fault that we are not lazy bloodsuckers. We do things and get those done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    So Orbán should care about the scandinavian interests instead of hungarian? lol He do it very well, getting more money is good for hungarians, and Orbáns task to represent hungarian interests nothing else. He is much better than scando politicians who are just puppets of Brussels.
    Perhaps so (pure moneywise).

    Still also like a mix of gypsies and Jewish behavior. Be proud of that too ...

    Yes, next time then you criticize gypsies etc. folks in Hungary ask yourself ... why those should think interest of ethnic Hungarians? Pretty same matter.

    Matters like pride or honor surely are not included either of cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Perhaps so (moneywise).

    Still also a mix of gypsies and Jewish behavior. Great model of human beings. Be proud of that too ...
    If scandinavian cucks would be models of europeans then we would perish very quickly. I see this gypsie and red jew mentality only in Scandinavia who are obsessed with marxism and free social services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Cost of living? That should actually put others help us, people who are living in very north. Just as cold climate really is not something which will make living easy or cheap as such. Very much opposite. And GDP? That is caused by people themselves ... as humans. Not our fault that we are not lazy bloodsuckers. We do things and get those done.
    We pay more than what we get from europe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    If scandinavian cucks would be models of europeans then we would perish very quickly. I see this gypsie and red jew mentality only in Scandinavia who are obsessed with marxism and free social services.

    And I care shit what you think.

    Dreaming about uber capitalist system one hand (even fully blindly) and getting/asking/demanding (as Orban is great here?) help from some others.

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    Italy population 59 milions Finland 5.5 milions

    Italy has 10,5 times the people of Finland

    Italian net contribution to Eu is 6,700 bilions...
    Finland net contribution to EU is 0,680 bilions....

    Italy pay 9.5 times the contribution of Finland to Eu...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    And I care shit what you think.

    Dreaming about uber capitalist system one hand (even fully blindly) and getting/asking/demanding (as Orban is great here?) help from some others.
    I didn't say Orbán is perfect, but still better than scando politicians who are just simple hometraitors and puppets of foreigners. And i want to remind you that Hungary sacrificed many things for Brussels after the EU joining, including the total destruction of local agriculture, livestock farming, many hungarian company/factory has closed because of western multinational companies etc. So its not free money as you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I didn't say Orbán is perfect, but still better than scando politicians who are just simple hometraitors and puppets of foreigners. And i want to remind you that Hungary sacrificed many things for Brussels after the EU joining, including the total destruction of local agriculture, livestock farming, many hungarian company/factory has closed because of western multinational companies etc. So its not free money as you think.

    If you think others did not face anything negative, you're wrong. EU almost killed farming in Finland (for example). Having climate like that vs much warmer countries? The result is pretty obvious? Yes, I could talk about that topic some 100 pages, I have followed that very close.

    One thing to keep in minds. Scandinavians and Finns voted and joined to EU which looked like this.


    I'm 200% sure they would not vote Yes to today's EU. So one thing I agree with you ... our politicians (who are in power) are even worse than Orban. I doubt we'll agree any other thing. I have no keen to stupid yes - no - yes- no second round discussion either. So lets stop before that start.

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