% of death rate and vaccination

[Jana]

I just don’t get how Israel continues to have covid 19 despite like 100 percent vaccination rate. They got every vaccine available. Unless the stats have changed since I last looked it up their covid 19 cases remain high.

Vaccination does not protect from infection but from harshest symptoms like hospitalization and death and not fully, but reduces the risk.
I wrote on TA how I had very harsh side effects from J&J and don't recommend it to anyone. But if I had old parents and grandparents (or imune-compromised family members) I would surely try to get them vaxxed.

[Teutone]

In the year 2020 as noone was vaccinated but also noone initially knew how to deal with covid cases in total 30k people died from covid in Germany. SOurce: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/corona-tote-107.html

In the year 2021 with 80% of the adult population vaccinated and better knowledge how to handle the disease 70k have died.

source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cases-germany/

So explain me the magic of the vaccine also explain me how we have reached most cases of infected this month.

[E1b1b]

Vaccination does not protect from infection but harshest symptoms like hospitalization and death and not fully, but reduces the risk.
I wrote how I had very harsh side effects from J&J and don't recommend it to anyone. But if I had old parents and grandparents (or imune-compromised family members) I would surely try to get them vaxxed.

Maybe. But lots of vaxxed old people end up dying anyways. I understand we aren’t doctors but I don’t believe the government and a vaccine that has been out only for 1 year and hasn’t been tested prior to release. Who knows what the effects of it can be in the future. I personally survived corona without it. Didn’t go to the hospital either.

[Creoda]

The Australian death/case rate seems to have gone up sharply in the last 3 months despite high vaccination.

[Jana]

Problem is that vaxxed people don't need to test (at least in Croatia), so they can freely spread covid around. Only unvaxxed need to test which isn't fair, that was made to force the rest to get vaxxed. Of curse you can be fully vaxxed and spread the diesease around, which is why discrimination of unvaxxed is purely political and not on scientific grounds. And that way all measures are ineffective.

All need to be tested daily or none.

But I am very convinced vaccines help vast majority of people indeed. Was it out too fast and is there big money interest behind it? Yeah. But doesn't mean they don't help.
In any case, obligatory vaccination like Austria plans to introduce is insane but I highly doubt that will ever happen. They are probably just trying to scare more people into getting a jab.

[Vrazijadivizija]

This month ill be another Croat whos gonna get vaccinated,not because i want it cuz of Corona but rather cuz my job seeks it and overall travel.
Sooner or later everyone will have to take it.
Beautiful Democracy.

[Jana]

Maybe. But lots of vaxxed old people end up dying anyways. I understand we aren’t doctors but I don’t believe the government and a vaccine that has been out only for 1 year and hasn’t been tested prior to release. Who knows what the effects of it can be in the future. I personally survived corona without it. Didn’t go to the hospital either.

Our statistics here says that vast majority of people who die from covid were unvaxxed. Most young people aren't really in danger of covid but world does not resolve around us only.
Another thing many forget is that due to high percentage of unvaxxed who are lot more likely to require hospital treatment, there are less and less hospital beds for people with other corona unrelated ilnessess and they suffer as a result.

Covid patients put huge pressure on medical system and that pressure is significantly worse the more unvaccinated there are. In Croatia there is a clear correlation at least.

[Teutone]

Problem is that vaxxed people don't need to test (at least in Croatia), so they can freely spread covid around. Only unvaxxed need to test which isn't fair, that was made to force the rest to get vaxxed. Of curse you can be fully vaxxed and spread the diesease around, which is why discrimination of unvaxxed is purely political and not on scientific grounds. And that way all measures are ineffective.

All need to be tested daily or none.

But I am very convinced vaccines help vast majority of people indeed. Was it out too fast and is there big money interest behind it? Yeah. But doesn't mean they don't help.
In any case, obligatory vaccination like Austria plans to introduce is insane but I highly doubt that will ever happen. They are probably just trying to scare more people into getting a jab.

Doesnt matter in terms of the death rate. And a high vaccination rate doesnt equal a lower death rate in a nation like Germany.

Compare a nation like sweden to romania in terms of death rates, has nothing to do with the vaccination rate in both countries but with the medical facilities/capabilities and quality of medical care.

[Teutone]

Plus medical staff,media and politcans THROUGHOUT the pandemic lied and exaggerated everything around covid, you need to research yourself to see those lies.
Just like they lie about ivermectin that could actually help prevent more covid deaths, by calling it a horse medicine, while a 3rd world shithole country like Japan is giving it to covid infected on mass.

No mainstream media would ever point out that somehow more people died of covid 2021 than 2020, it doesnt fit the narrative.
They all on the payroll of pfizer,biontech and have a deep interest in the great reset.

[Jana]

Doesnt matter in terms of the death rate. And a high vaccination rate doesnt equal a lower death rate in a nation like Germany.

Compare a nation like sweden to romania in terms of death rates, has nothing to do with the vaccination rate in both countries but with the medical facilities/capabilities and quality of medical care.

You need to compare percentage of vaxxed vs unvaxxed among dead from covid. I agree for Sweden/Romania comparison but nevertheless.