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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    but he has freckles
    I had them too, like tons of them from one cheeck to other, mostly concentrated on nose. Thankfully they disappeared around age 12-13. (:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    I had them too, like tons of them from one cheeck to other, mostly concentrated on nose. Thankfully they disappeared around age 12-13. (:
    Freckles are cute, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    He studied mediterranean agriculture
    Still farmeroid of Med subtype mixed with programmoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    But he plots just as northern Croat/Slovenian/Hungarian.
    Or alternatively Moldovan/Ukrainian. I have nearly the same % in Ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    He is more northern shifted than what I expected. I did expect him to be central Euro like because natives of North Adriatic area are like that, but I expected some Italian influence too, and even some Istro-Romanian. In autosomal it isn't visible at all. Island where his father is from had very large Italian population (even some of his extended family are bilingual-however his father was ethnic Croat), but I guess most of them were just Italianized Slavs. Village from where his mother is from is purely Croat, but they border with three Istro-Romanian villages and I assumed they intermarried with them as Istro-Romanians are Catholics and heavily mixed with nearby Croats.

    But he plots just as northern Croat/Slovenian/Hungarian. Y-DNA was expected, I predicted R1a for him because it's main haplo in Primorje and Island of Cres which is connected with Island of Lošinj where his father is from is like 60% R1a. I just expected him to be M458 instead of Z280. Most of R1a in north Adriatic Islands is M458 which is anomaly (perhaps founder effect) because vast majority of Croats who are R1a belong to Z280>CTS1211 as he does.
    Are there any native people in Senj speaking Italian which is close to Istria? I remember hearing spoken Italian there but it could have been tourists or something. I was there a couple of time for more than a week.

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    Wikipedia says that Mali Lošinj is 86% ethnic Croat according to 2011 census. Who are the other 14% ??? Italians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Are there any native people in Senj speaking Italian which is close to Istria? I remember hearing spoken Italian there but it could have been tourists or something. I was there a couple of time for more than a week.
    Many people on Adriatic coast can speak some Italian, especially those working in tourism. This friend of mine is completely fluent in Italian for example. Regarding Senj, it was always strongly Croat/Slavic fortress on north Adriatic coast and they were even centre of Uskoks (soldiers and pirates), who later rebelled against Venice.

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    Uskok fortress Nehaj in Senj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Wikipedia says that Mali Lošinj is 86% ethnic Croat according to 2011 census. Who are the other 14% ??? Italians?
    Must be, on this map you can see where Italian is spoken as native language:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians_of_Croatia

    Keep in mind many Italians left after WW2 and Mali Lošinj (the town) was likely Italian-majority at some point even. So that's why I expected Italian admix despite his father side are all Croats. It's an small island and thus such admixture should be visible even in ethnic Croats. But there seems to be none, Ancestry registers nothing as well. Thus this goes well in hand with my argument most of Italians in Croatia were italianized locals while genuine Italians were tiny minority.
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    Btw I discovered some genuine Venetian ancestry (settler from Verona) in my family from Hvar Island in Dalmatia. But that is only because my DNA match in Argentina is into genealogy for 30 years and menaged to build our tree until medieval times. Probably if went far enough deeply, there will be genuine Venetian settlers, especially on Islands like Lošinj. But all in all Italian genetic influence seem very weak to none.

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    Interesting results.

    Quote Originally Posted by Art23 View Post
    Or alternatively Moldovan/Ukrainian. I have nearly the same % in Ancestry.
    I even wonder whether you could paint a belt with people that do get about 50:50% Balkan and EE in AncestryDNA from Kvarner Bay to Moldova.

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