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Interesting. I hope you'll get your results soon!Originally Posted by Gergő Marosvári
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Fully agreed. This is exactly what I concluded out of this as likely.
The person is our "W., the Mazurian".
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Looks like I found likely full Croat from Lošinj. It's his gedmatch match and has a surname which is specific for Lošinj only, and I checked it's matches, it matches other Croats.
autosomal looks fully Croatian as well
North_Atlantic 30.99 Pct
Baltic 29.35 Pct
West_Med 17 Pct
West_Asian 8.53 Pct
East_Med 8.46 Pct
Red_Sea 2.28 Pct
South_Asian 2.51 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.54 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.34 Pct
Pretty central European too, only bit more southern than him, but he is only half from Lošinj. Strong western shift overall (high north atlantic and west med)
Distance to: NN
5.15601590 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.46473238 Hungarian
5.75996528 Csángó-Ceangău
5.94869734 Hungarian_Alföld
6.30822479 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
6.49647597 Slovenian
6.55808661 Croat_North
6.59760563 Croat_West
6.77229651 Croat
7.10068307 Austrian
7.78467083 Croat_South
8.05502948 Hungarian_North
8.23437308 Romania_Maramures
8.70021264 Croat_East
8.70058044 Serb_Serbia_West
8.99759968 Serb_Bosnia
9.07439254 Romania_Moldavia_North
9.13440748 Bosniak
9.23472252 Serb_Croatia
9.28981162 Bosniak_Bosnia
9.34148810 Slovak
9.67623377 Serb
9.71143141 German_East
9.78188121 Poland_Lemko
9.99563905 Moldova_North
Target: NN
Distance: 1.6709% / 1.67093509 | R3P
79.2 Croat_North
14.9 French_Southwest
5.9 Kalash
Target: NN
Distance: 0.8074% / 0.80738587 | R4P
52.2 Russian_Smolensk
24.2 Italian_Tuscan
17.8 French_Basque
5.8 Balochi
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There is a high probability that his ancestors did not come from Masovia but rather from what is now Kujawsko-Pomorskie - because Osterode is in Western Masuria. I read that settlers in this area did not come from Masovia. His western-shifted results compared to Masurs from Eastern Masuria also indicate it (or higher German admixture).
Of course the name of the region derived from Masovians was extended over entire region, regardless of where the Polish settlers came from.
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This sample which is almost surely from Lošinj I posted again has SW French/Basque shift. Again an islander with SW Euro shift. Dalmatian Islander origin people have same SW shift as well (already commented that in another thread).Looks like Adriatic Islands have preserved more Illyrian ancestry than the mainland and that is reason for their high north Atlantic and high west Med. Meanwhile mainland has more Imperial Roman like ancestry, especially everything south of Pannonia. That would match with historical sources which mention Illyrians fleeing to the islands. But of course, later the Islands got strong Slavic input as well.
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I posted this one from nearby:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7215453
They all look Hungarian like. But it's possible that all these results include some low level Italian.
Some of those Slovenians you sent me have German or Italian grandparents or great grandparents, and their results don't even shift in that direction compared to the Slovenian average.
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Did you notice any regional tendencies in Slovenian results? Btw, did we ever saw gedmatch results native to Nish?
It's third biggest city in Serbia and I never saw sample from there. Is southern Serbia undertested?
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Only thing I noticed is those close to the Austrian border actually have the highest Baltic. One noricum's family member who is half Carinthian Slovene is more Baltic than any Slovenian (41%)
there was a user from Niš here, her nick was something like lilalila, she was around 31 Baltic I think.
It's not undertested, and I checked many unconfirmed results on gedmatch too, the average is stable.
There's no difference between the Shopluk ans South Morava regions (as defined on this map https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geogra...:Serbia022.png )
The outlying region among Torlakian speakers is possibly southern Kosovo and Metohija, I saw a couple results from there and they are actually close to the Montenegrin average (higher NA, lower Baltic)
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He is way more Hungarian than many of the Hungarian TA members lol.Including me!
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