Once again about drugs...

[Sarmata]

Reason to why I have created this thread is some accident from 2 days ago...

"Zatrucie amfetaminą i ecstasy było prawdopodobną przyczyną śmierci dwóch braci. 15- i 18-latek zatruli się podczas imprezy w nocy z poniedziałku na wtorek w Siemianowicach Śląskich. Ich 19-letni brat oraz 20-letnia znajoma, którzy uczestniczyli w tej samej imprezie, zażyli taką ilość narkotyków, że zdaniem lekarzy "trudno ją nawet zmierzyć".
- Stwierdziliśmy ogromne ilości amfetaminy i mniejsze stężenia ecstasy. Można powiedzieć, że w przypadku tego pierwszego narkotyku stężenia wykraczają wręcz poza możliwość pomiaru – o stanie najstarszego z braci i ich znajomej poinformował dyrektor Szpitala Miejskiego nr 2 w Siemianowicach Śląskich Bolesław Gębarski. Dodał, że życiu pacjentów nie zagraża już bezpośrednie niebezpieczeństwo".

Yes I know this is in Polish and maybe except Oswiu no one can read this short article...It's about 2 brothers, 15 and 18 years old kids actually who died becouse of drugs. Their third brother is in the hospital now. According to doctors they take so much drugs(amphetamine and ecstasy) that doctors can't measure it... And point is that I personaly know one of them(boy who survive) and boys father who works/worked( guy lost contact with reality) in my firm. To use a single word it's tragedy. So "drugs defenders" please think twice...

[Jamt]

That is tragic as hell. Not to common for users to die of speed and ecstasy but they definitely can do from heat, and lack of water after use, or, as in this case radical overdose.

[Birka]

Did someone make these brainiacs take the drugs? Was there a gun at their heads threatening them? They made the stupid choice. What is there to defend?

[Jamt]

They were kids. And one of them was someone who Sarmata know. So…

[Birka]

It is a shame that young people do drugs and overdose. Especially if they are friends. But that does not mean that governments should control the use of drugs. Knives are legal and people kill with them. Should we do away with knives?

[SwordoftheVistula]

They might be too young to make responsible decisions, I wouldn't mind a minimum age of 21 for drug use. I don't think this justifies banning it entirely though.

[Sol Invictus]

How many people overdose and die as a result of Marijuana use?

[Psychonaut]

They might be too young to make responsible decisions, I wouldn't mind a minimum age of 21 for drug use. I don't think this justifies banning it entirely though.

That's where I stand as well. Most organic drugs are far less dangerous than alcohol. Setting an age limit of 18 (or 21 depending on your municipality) would make sense if drugs like marijuana, mushrooms or cacti were legalized.

[Ulf]

For the gov't to tell you what you can or can not put into your body implies that you do not have ownership over your own body; that you don't have the right to decide what you'll do with your body, with your property and with your life.

I figured it was pretty common knowledge that taking too many drugs will probably kill or hospitalize you.

Oh well, hopefully he will recover and learn from this.

[Fortis in Arduis]

The correct dose for MDMA is about 250mg, split into two doses, about 90 minutes aparts, the first dose being the main one and the second dose being about half that amount.

Anything more than that, and one experiences peripheral side effects such as overheating and the jitters.

So why did they take so much?