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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    ... just that I noticed a general Balkan shift not only in looks but also in culture consumer products which were only available in certain turkic shops and Balkan shops 20 years ago are now regular in every mainstream market
    Yes thats very true. My local Spar market has a selection of probably 5-6 different brands of Ajvar, they offer Eurocrem, Bananica. When paying at a ex-yugo or albanian cashier they give me a little nod, one even stated "bist a vo untn!?" -hillarious XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    Well Turks and Armenians hate each other and both sides say things which are clearly racist, and both aren’t alien to each other. Turks often look down to their own citizens with another sociocultural background, non-Turks as well ethnic Turks.



    Well I don’t agree that Turks have any Arabic influence genetically, but the Anatolian and Iranic components which Turks have are Near/Middle Eastern. Pre-Turkish Anatolians didn’t have that amount of steppe which Turks nowadays have, which were brought with the Turkic component and isn’t still enough for making us close to Europeans. But most important thing is culture, which is irrefutable Middle Eastern. I also denied that term describing Turks which was wrong, the only reason why Turks get offended being called Middle Eastern are clearly racist prejudices. Caucasians and Iranians are Middle Eastern too, only intellectually retarded people think Middle Eastern are deserts with palms and camels, btw last one is a very important animal among Turks, has the same importance like horses.



    Some are very nice but some are, former members like kivan, iblisvolga and their sock demis had a serious case of owd and were clearly racist. I don’t see any way to defend them, I saw both using words against non-Turks as well Turks which is considered as hate speech in every civilized society and country. What other racist members are saying here, regardless it is worse or not, isn’t an excuse.
    Were Medieval Turkics genetically more European-like than Pre-TUrkish Anatolians? As far as I know Pre-Turkish Anatolians were like a balanced mix of Atlantic_Med and West Asian. Since Atlantic_Med is one of the core components of Europeans, I think Pre-Turkish Anatolians were closer to European than Medieval Turks are to Europeans.

    By the way I really don't think Demis is a sockpuppet of neither Kivan nor Itilvolga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reboun View Post
    Were Medieval Turkics genetically more European-like than Pre-TUrkish Anatolians? As far as I know Pre-Turkish Anatolians were like a balanced mix of Atlantic_Med and West Asian. Since Atlantic_Med is one of the core components of Europeans, I think Pre-Turkish Anatolians were closer to European than Medieval Turks are to Europeans.
    Medieval Turkics had some steppe, most of nowadays Turkish steppe admixture comes from them. Pre-Turkish Anatolians were, besides of Western Anatolian Greeks who were very close to mainland Greeks, very southern shifted, more Armenian like. Turks also brought Iranic influence from east to west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    No. That's a high vage and seemingly your friend is not completely unskilled. It may be a menial work, but he can still have a number of other people beneath him in the hierachy that he does tell what to do. An unskilled German in Eastern Germany gets something like 1,300 Euro (amout to be payed out (Auszahlbetrag)) for a fulltime job, in Western Germany it will be somewhat more. Social care including renting a flat is maybe abt. 700 Euro. One has to take into account that some Germans are satisfied with that social care amount, no matter what you otherwise could earn. These you could just get motivated by cutting down the social care.
    I don't think he has anyone beneath him. He wasn't unskilled when he came to Germany though. He worked for years with his father, electrical installation wiring and stuff. If I remember correctly he had around 2000€ or something when he first came. The first company that hired him was very much satisfied with him. He understood everything he was told to do with zero knowledge of German and bad English, I presume because he had practical working experience. He had to move to another city because of his wife. His former company wrote a good letter of recommendation and he got a better paid job.

    Another aspect: The free movement of labour is a central political point within the EU. But this can also have negative consequences for the countires, where the workers come from. A number of countries do loose many good workers that they do need themselves rather much. It's a policy of maximising companies gains. Various side effects (at other's expences) are ignored.
    There obviously are negative consequences, but personally for most workers who stayed not so much. Balkan employers have a habit of giving bad salaries. People from the Balkans are often told to avoid to work in Germany for people from Balkans, but in the end many times there is no choice but to work for them. If Balkanigga gives you 1700€ pay German man will give you 2400€ for doing the same job. At least that is what I was told. Exodus of many skilled workers who left for Germany and the rest of Western Europe caused shortage of skilled workers back home which caused employers to slowly raise wages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
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