Will Islam reach the secularisation of modern day Christianity and when?

[Mortimer]

Is that possible and when? I dont say whether it would be a good or bad thing, just neutral cold observations. I think the Americans waged war in the middle east to open it up to capitalism, just like they did some centuries ago in Japan. I dont know if it worked though, we will see in the long run.

[sioned]

Islam is a cult, based on satanism..Stop comparing that cult with religions. Islam isn''t a religion, its a cult, nothing less.

[Östsvensk]

Prescribed for you is fighting, though it be hateful to you. Yet it may happen that you will hate a thing which is better for you; and it may happen that you will love a thing which is worse for you; God knows, and you know not. - Qur'an 2:116 Arberry

You have to follow every verse, even if you don't like it.

Shakir: Alif Lam Ra (This is) a Book, whose verses are made decisive, then are they made plain, from the Wise, All-aware: - Qur'an 11:1 Shakir

Today I have perfected your religion for you, and I have completed My blessing upon you, and I have approved Islam for your religion. Qur'an 5:3 Arberry

Allah's religion is perfect. What is a human being going to do about it?

Why would Islam need a reform when it is so successful anyway? Islam is doing great in Afghanistan, Turkey, the UK, France, Brazil, Germany, Sweden, Belgium, the Netherlands, Canada and the United States etc, and that is because its selling point is largely that it is not being reformed.

[RogueState]

The secularization process is a consequence of rising levels of education, economic development and urbanization

So the MENA world is going through this phase, like the European Enlightenment period in the 18th century

For instance, Iran, despite having de jure a religious regime, but its population is de facto becoming secular endogenously than even "secular" Arab countries

[StonyArabia]

Is that possible and when? I dont say whether it would be a good or bad thing, just neutral cold observations. I think the Americans waged war in the middle east to open it up to capitalism, just like they did some centuries ago in Japan. I dont know if it worked though, we will see in the long run.

It’s already happening. Though with secularization we are getting fags, feminist butches, Pornography, Drugs and degenerate multiculturalism , and evil usury especially in some hellholes like Dubai, and such. Though the Arab world especially the older generations are still against this degeneracy. That moron Mohammed Bin Salman is encouraging degeneracy of all kinds in his kingdom and beyond, he is responsible for arresting many top clerks, as well anyone with conservative views. This was a legacy of the 2003 American invasion of Iraq, despite the government being secular such degeneracy was outlawed, and there was respect to religious Islamic values. With the so called democracy and degenerates ruling Iraq, all the Fags, Butches, Feminists, Pornographers began to show their ugly heads, and some became more emboldened with their degeneracy like Mohammed Bin Salman or the sick fucks ruling the UAE.

Such secularization is shameful on many levels.

[Ranger0075]

The secularization process is a consequence of rising levels of education, economic development and urbanization

Following this logic countries like UAE, Bahrein, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore etc should be as secular as nordic countries.

Any christian country in Latin America or Sub Saharan Africa is by far more progressist than these muslim countries.

[Ranger0075]

[Mortimer]

I saw that guy before I thought he is a comedian but he is real

[Ranger0075]

I saw that guy before I thought he is a comedian but he is real

He literally read the whole bible and know each sentence by memory. I am quite surprise how we find such good content on Internet

[Tooting Carmen]

Following this logic countries like UAE, Bahrein, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore etc should be as secular as nordic countries.

Any christian country in Latin America or Sub Saharan Africa is by far more progressist than these muslim countries.

Yes I agree, but there is change in the air in those countries you listed too. Birth rates in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh and many states of India are below replacement rate, while elsewhere in the MENA and South Asia (except Afghanistan) they are also plummeting. The wealthier East Asian countries (including Singapore) have below replacement rates too. As for secularisation in the Middle East, ironically I think Iran might be on the vanguard of that because (a) many people are highly put-off by the Islamic regime, (b) Shia Islam seems to be a bit more liberal than Sunni Islam anyway, (c) Iran has always had notable secularist and even OWD strains among its elites in particular and (d) rapidly rising levels of education and development, especially among women.