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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Yes I agree, but there is change in the air in those countries you listed too. Birth rates in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh and many states of India are below replacement rate, while elsewhere in the MENA and South Asia (except Afghanistan) they are also plummeting. The wealthier East Asian countries (including Singapore) have below replacement rates too. As for secularisation in the Middle East, ironically I think Iran might be on the vanguard of that because (a) many people are highly put-off by the Islamic regime, (b) Shia Islam seems to be a bit more liberal than Sunni Islam anyway, (c) Iran has always had notable secularist and even OWD strains among its elites in particular and (d) rapidly rising levels of education and development, especially among women.
    Shia Islam is not more liberal than Sunni Islam. This is a myth. In fact in some instances it has more conservative and extreme views. The reason Shia Islam appears to be more liberal because the Western World, had never came into contact with it, and when they did they allied against the Sunni powers such as the Habsburg alliance with the Persian Safavid tyrants. Iran, when the mullahs took power, they encouraged the rise of extremist religious movement especially Shia ones and even some Sunni ones. In Iraq for example after 2003, Shia militias began to force Mandeans, Arab Christians and Sunnis to convert to leave. Then the Sunnis began to fight them. After this, there was a period of cold peace, with leadership more concerned by stealing wealth from the people, lining their pockets and giving the stolen wealth to their American and British masters. These degenerate thus encouraged degenerate secularism, and even began to bring Pornography, encourage feminist butches, and even homosexuality all as a distraction. Other scum in the region like Mohammed Bin Salman, and the UAE fucks loved this, and in their colonial minds they think this is being advanced, cosmopolitan, but the fact this is a distraction so they can plunder the wealth of the people even more, plus they can serve their Zionist American and British masters even better. The Iraq war is the main secularization force, because, now there is no respect for Islamic values, despite Iraq at the time being secular, there was always a line not to cross, now it’s being crossed. Heck even the Gulf monarch scum, knew not cross the line. Since Iraq is filled with degeneracy, they are also loving it.

    Going back to the Shias. In fact in Najaf exist a Shia sect known as the 7th heaven, they were not easily subdued by the Americans nor British, and the Iraqi forces which are joke were no match for them. They certainly don’t agree with the liberal degeneracy that was received.
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    It will never happen. They are too primitive and brutal. And the dark elites want to keep them backwards since they are way easier too manipulate compared to other cultures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    It will never happen. They are too primitive and brutal. And the dark elites want to keep them backwards since they are way easier too manipulate compared to other cultures.
    Having family values, honor, self respect, wearing modest clothes, not using usury is backwards
    Being a Fag, Feminist Butch, no dignity chasing the dollar, single motherhood, misandrist is being advanced. The elites would like to manipulate the latter than the first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    Having family values, honor, self respect, wearing modest clothes, not using usury is backwards
    Being a Fag, Feminist Butch, no dignity chasing the dollar, single motherhood, misandrist is being advanced. The elites would like to manipulate the latter than the first.
    I agree bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    Having family values, honor, self respect, wearing modest clothes, not using usury is backwards
    Being a Fag, Feminist Butch, no dignity chasing the dollar, single motherhood, misandrist is being advanced. The elites would like to manipulate the latter than the first.
    It seems so, otherwise muslims wouldn't keep coming. There's NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM ON THIS FORUM who lives on their parents' country. They have all moved to the "decadent" West lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    Having family values, honor, self respect, wearing modest clothes, not using usury is backwards
    Being a Fag, Feminist Butch, no dignity chasing the dollar, single motherhood, misandrist is being advanced. The elites would like to manipulate the latter than the first.
    That is a false dichotomy. The family system performs ideological functions for the Capitalist system. The latter degeneracy is caused by late capitalism and liberals. Liberals are not marxists they delusionally think Capitalism can be reformed but just perpetuate more Capitalist inspired miasma. The only solution is Marxist revolution. Religion in general is outdated and has no place in Communist society. Needless to say there is no usury etc.. in a true Communist society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    It seems so, otherwise muslims wouldn't keep coming. There's NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM ON THIS FORUM who lives on their parents' country. They have all moved to the "decadent" West lol
    That's not quite fair because many Muslim countries would be rich if not bullied by external powers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    That's not quite fair because many Muslim countries would be rich if not bullied by external powers
    All countries are bullied by external powers to some degree or another. Latin America is the US backyard for example but we do know how to play along instead of killing each other and believe in fairy tales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    All countries are bullied by external powers to some degree or another. Latin America is the US backyard for example but we do know how to play along instead of killing each other and believe in fairy tales.
    Latin Americans kill each other in gang violence and there are many illegal immigrants from Latin America in the US and elsewhere but they were not directly bombed and occupied
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Latin Americans kill each other in gang violence and there are many illegal immigrants from Latin America in the US and elsewhere but they were not directly bombed and occupied
    Indeed. Because we know how to play along. Muslim countries live exactly the same as they did 200 years ago.

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