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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    Nope. I am comfortable with my identity and culture. Yes they look Turanid a central Asian race.



    Of course not. Though some of you claim Semitic descent from the Israelites rofl. Light featured some are yes. Tajiks tend to look light and Turanid. Pashtuns that I have seen were similar to Iranians and Pakistanis. Qizilbash are light but they are from Azerbaijan.



    Interesting





    You were trying to make them whiter and severe their connection to Bedouin’s. When Syrians have had a Bedouin cultural and in some cases genetic influence since the days of antiquity. In fact several North Arabian dialects were spoken there, long before Islam appeared, especially the Safaitic, and as well Nabatean. The Romans even described that many of them look Arabian and especially the ruling classes.
    These videos are good examples of afghan diaspora in the west ( pashtun and Tajik NOT Uzbeks or hazaras )

    In these videos some are pashtun and some are Tajik . Can you tell them apart? I don't think you can because even I can't !






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    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna View Post
    Well according to fst and ibd analysis , afghans are much closer to Turks ( from Turkey ) than any Semitic group. That could explain that , as well as the fact that many Turkic nomads actually migrated from areas in North Afghanistan . The Seljuks also established their dominion in modern day Iran and afghanistan( khorasan) before heading west into anatolia.
    Yes I know that Turkics and Iranics share a lot in common. Indeed the Seljuks were quite Persianized. In fact they brought a Persianate culture to Anatolia. Even their wars with the Fatamids which were said to be sectarian was in fact struggle of Arabian/Persian civilization. The Turko-Persian Khawarezmian also did the same with the Abbassids. This why when the Shah told the Caliph to bring military assistance it fell on deaf ears in order to confront the Mongols. The Ghazvanids were also very Persian in culture and even funded Ferdowsi to write the Shah-Neman epic. This why in some historical records Turk and Persian were interchangeable and hard to distinguish.

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    You seem to throw the term turanid like it's an insult . Turanids in its pure form does not look like the people I posted but turanid influenced people do.
    Nope I don’t use it as an insult. I am just saying they look Turanid

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    That claim has been refuted and it wasn't even claimed by pashtuns rather westerners .
    Of course it would. The Israelites genetically were similar to North Arabians. Even historical Levantines were close to Arabian, but they got a lot of Anatolian influence post Bronze Age which accounts for the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna
    Your goalpost seems to keep changing lol. Yesterday the pashtuns looked north Indian and now Iranian and Pakistani ? What next ? Mongolian tomorrow ?
    Not at all I said they look North Indian and Iranian. Pakistanis are North Indian muslims lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna
    Syrians are the lightest Arabs. This is not even a debate .
    That depends on the region and ethnio-religious group. The lightest Arabs are not Syrians but Druze and Alwaites, followed by a significant number of Syrian Sunni Arabs. However many look very Arabian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna
    But even then, they still look on par with iranics.
    Some do, some do not. Some look like Kavkaz, Anatolian and even European lol. This again depends on the ethnic groups. Albanians, Greek Muslim’s, Bosniaks, Chechens, Circassians, Hamshens Muslim Armenians, Sunni Azeris, and Dagestanis have called Syria their home. There is also significant Turkish element as well, despite some being Arabized but have Turkic last names.

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    They don't look beduoin or Yemeni, but I do get that there is a massive historical link with Arabia .
    About 30% of Syria is Bedouin stock. They look north Arabian. Yemenis look like smaller Arabians, it’s only in the far coast where the Yemenis start looking different and of course Socotra, but they are part of the Arabian nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    Yes I know that Turkics and Iranics share a lot in common. Indeed the Seljuks were quite Persianized. In fact they brought a Persianate culture to Anatolia. Even their wars with the Fatamids which were said to be sectarian was in fact struggle of Arabian/Persian civilization. The Turko-Persian Khawarezmian also did the same with the Abbassids. This why when the Shah told the Caliph to bring military assistance it fell on deaf ears in order to confront the Mongols. The Ghazvanids were also very Persian in culture and even funded Ferdowsi to write the Shah-Neman epic. This why in some historical records Turk and Persian were interchangeable and hard to distinguish.



    Nope I don’t use it as an insult. I am just saying they look Turanid



    Of course it would. The Israelites genetically were similar to North Arabians. Even historical Levantines were close to Arabian, but they got a lot of Anatolian influence post Bronze Age which accounts for the difference.



    Not at all I said they look North Indian and Iranian. Pakistanis are North Indian muslims lol



    That depends on the region and ethnio-religious group. The lightest Arabs are not Syrians but Druze and Alwaites, followed by a significant number of Syrian Sunni Arabs. However many look very Arabian.



    Some do, some do not. Some look like Kavkaz, Anatolian and even European lol. This again depends on the ethnic groups. Albanians, Greek Muslim’s, Bosniaks, Chechens, Circassians, Hamshens Muslim Armenians, Sunni Azeris, and Dagestanis have called Syria their home. There is also significant Turkish element as well, despite some being Arabized but have Turkic last names.



    About 30% of Syria is Bedouin stock. They look north Arabian. Yemenis look like smaller Arabians, it’s only in the far coast where the Yemenis start looking different and of course Socotra, but they are part of the Arabian nation.
    I still don't think you met ethnic pashtuns from Afghanistan . Besides , not all indic Pakistanis are from North India , infact , the term "muhajjir " is used for Indian Muslims who migrated to Pakistan . There is a overlap between local Indus types like gujjars , kohistanis and northern Punjabis with pashtuns from swat, bannu, Mardan DGK in Pakistan . But these groups are lightest and western shifted Pakistanis not north Indians who look too south Asian admixed . Even then, I guarantee you can tell who is pashtun and who isn't by their phenotype.

    Can you tell apart the two ethnic Afghans in the Pakistani cricket squad ? Keep in mind I believe there are quite a few muhajjirs ( north Indian Muslims ) in the squad , hence why they look so Indian .

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...cket-team-2021

    You said they looked north Indian but lighter and then changed it to " they look north Indian " And now Iranian and Pakistani, kinda seems you are backtracking on your comment . Whatever the case , your comment that they looked turanid ( pics above ) tells me that pashtuns look neither Iranian nor Pakistani . They have their own look which is shared with other south central asian groups like tajiks , nuristanis, pamiris etc . And this coincides with history and genetics since the groups I mentioned derive majority of their ancestry from eastern Iranian people's from the steppes and BMAC derived folks .

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    I think you guys fail to realize that the majority of civilizations have been passed down from one culture to another. Whether itd be Arabs, Iranians, mesopotamians or whatever. Its like playing hot potatoe. It gets just gets passed down constantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    Those people look Turanid. Syrians mostly don’t care if they look white or not. Many Syrians have Bedouin blood btw especially the southern region. Many in South Syria are of Bedouin origins. This not mention that Syrian Bedouin’s could never be dominated by outsiders. They even buttfucked the Romans under the Queen Mavia, and they only accepted rulership of the Ummayads because of bloodline ties. They the Bedouin tribes would also buttfuck the Romans again under Queen Zenobia. She was not white looking according to the Romans who saw her, in fact she looked typical Arabian

    Her face was dark and of a swarthy hue, her eyes were black and powerful beyond the usual wont, her spirit divinely great, and her beauty incredible. So white were her teeth that many thought that she had pearls in place of teeth. Augustan history

    Many Syrians consider the Bedouin element to be part of their heritage and culture, even when it’s minor.

    More on the Indo-European Aryans brother of Europeans LOL





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    How did you transition from talking about pashtuns to syrians and bedouins? Bro, youre cool, but sometimes you let your nationalism devour you tbh. Theres no reason to attack Iranians or Iranic people for no reason and I say that with respect.

    I would greatly appreciate it man, thanks.

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