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Yes I know that Turkics and Iranics share a lot in common. Indeed the Seljuks were quite Persianized. In fact they brought a Persianate culture to Anatolia. Even their wars with the Fatamids which were said to be sectarian was in fact struggle of Arabian/Persian civilization. The Turko-Persian Khawarezmian also did the same with the Abbassids. This why when the Shah told the Caliph to bring military assistance it fell on deaf ears in order to confront the Mongols. The Ghazvanids were also very Persian in culture and even funded Ferdowsi to write the Shah-Neman epic. This why in some historical records Turk and Persian were interchangeable and hard to distinguish.
Nope I don’t use it as an insult. I am just saying they look TuranidOriginally Posted by Avicenna
Of course it would. The Israelites genetically were similar to North Arabians. Even historical Levantines were close to Arabian, but they got a lot of Anatolian influence post Bronze Age which accounts for the difference.Originally Posted by Avicenna
Not at all I said they look North Indian and Iranian. Pakistanis are North Indian muslims lolOriginally Posted by Avicenna
That depends on the region and ethnio-religious group. The lightest Arabs are not Syrians but Druze and Alwaites, followed by a significant number of Syrian Sunni Arabs. However many look very Arabian.Originally Posted by Avicenna
Some do, some do not. Some look like Kavkaz, Anatolian and even European lol. This again depends on the ethnic groups. Albanians, Greek Muslim’s, Bosniaks, Chechens, Circassians, Hamshens Muslim Armenians, Sunni Azeris, and Dagestanis have called Syria their home. There is also significant Turkish element as well, despite some being Arabized but have Turkic last names.Originally Posted by Avicenna
About 30% of Syria is Bedouin stock. They look north Arabian. Yemenis look like smaller Arabians, it’s only in the far coast where the Yemenis start looking different and of course Socotra, but they are part of the Arabian nation.Originally Posted by Avicenna
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I still don't think you met ethnic pashtuns from Afghanistan . Besides , not all indic Pakistanis are from North India , infact , the term "muhajjir " is used for Indian Muslims who migrated to Pakistan . There is a overlap between local Indus types like gujjars , kohistanis and northern Punjabis with pashtuns from swat, bannu, Mardan DGK in Pakistan . But these groups are lightest and western shifted Pakistanis not north Indians who look too south Asian admixed . Even then, I guarantee you can tell who is pashtun and who isn't by their phenotype.
Can you tell apart the two ethnic Afghans in the Pakistani cricket squad ? Keep in mind I believe there are quite a few muhajjirs ( north Indian Muslims ) in the squad , hence why they look so Indian .
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...cket-team-2021
You said they looked north Indian but lighter and then changed it to " they look north Indian " And now Iranian and Pakistani, kinda seems you are backtracking on your comment . Whatever the case , your comment that they looked turanid ( pics above ) tells me that pashtuns look neither Iranian nor Pakistani . They have their own look which is shared with other south central asian groups like tajiks , nuristanis, pamiris etc . And this coincides with history and genetics since the groups I mentioned derive majority of their ancestry from eastern Iranian people's from the steppes and BMAC derived folks .
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I think you guys fail to realize that the majority of civilizations have been passed down from one culture to another. Whether itd be Arabs, Iranians, mesopotamians or whatever. Its like playing hot potatoe. It gets just gets passed down constantly.
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How did you transition from talking about pashtuns to syrians and bedouins? Bro, youre cool, but sometimes you let your nationalism devour you tbh. Theres no reason to attack Iranians or Iranic people for no reason and I say that with respect.
I would greatly appreciate it man, thanks.
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