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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    Christianity experienced a massive rebirth in the Balkans after the fall of communism. You should get on board. Get back to your first religion, forget that pedophilic sect.
    Go back to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by E1b1b View Post
    Go back to this?
    No silly, more like this



    The Holy Father said that George Castriot Skanderbeg is a heroic son of strong and generous people. He added that Skanderbeg defended spiritual values and the Christian name with courage.
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    There is no big difference between Islam and Christianity and Judaism and still Muslims persecute Christians, behead them and burn Bibles. Weird.
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    I read a story, on facebook, a friend from Italy posted it. I cannot give the source, but it went something like this...

    A ottoman pasha arrived in Belgrade with his slaves, and a crowd wanted to lynch him, then the police came, and they said the slaves are free, and in serbia there is no slavery. The Slaves can now live freely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    There is no such a thing as Balkan Islam, everything tied to Islam in the Balkans, is Ottoman by essence. It must be seen just as a sub-region of the Ottoman Islamic civilization. The only specificity is maybe the very heterodox form of Bektashism in Albania.

    What does exist in post-Communist period though, is a revival of Islam in the region with a more Wahabi-Salafi orientation, like many other regions in the world, through the cultural hegemonia of Gulf countries, and also the shift from higher Islamic studies from Turkey to Arab countries (it's the case in my region)

    The symbolic value of being trained in Arab countries is higher than being trained in an "Ilahiyat" faculty in Turkey (as it was in the past, in the Ottoman times). In fact, most medresa students that want to continue studying at university-level Islam, if they go abroad, they all go to Arab countries. Those who go to Turkey are rare or it is for studying non-Islamic subject like engineering.

    But still, coming back home, the newly-trained imam (hodza) keeps the Ottoman-Islamic framework, because it's too deeply implemented in the population and he doesn't want to conflict with its dzematlije (cemaat in Turkish, the local community)
    Heterodox Islam is not something special to Albania, in fact, a great amount of the Balkan Turkish population was either heterodox or was belonging to mainstream Islam without sectarian preferences that were still introduced by Heterodox dervishes. However, they re-shaped their beliefs as Ottomans took a position as Sunnis. There is a minority who still radically follows Bektashism, the rest who consider themselves as Sunni doesn't even really know the exact differentiation between Bektashism and Sunnism and identify as such just because Ottomans took a position as Sunnis, so do modern Turkey.

    Besides, the way of application of Islam among Bosniaks and Albanians actually differs from the Islam applied in the Eastern Balkans and what you stated applies only for the Bosniaks and Albanians(the Salafism orientation), and as far as I observed that trend peaks in Sandzak. The radical Islamist countries such as Saudis and Iran has got a certain space in these regions(with a purpose, of course) as you said, many of the theology hodzas were educated in these regions, or even if they were educated in local schools, they follow the trends applied in Middle-East rather than Turkey. But this is something recent(post-cold war) before then, the ME didn't have such influence in the Western Balkans.

    The Eastern Balkans, on the other hand, might be considered as more or less in the same trend as Turkey in the way of application of Islam. The religious leaders/hodzas are under the strong influence of the Turkish Diyanet. What is interesting here is the views of an average Turk or Pomak(Pomaks tend to be more religious compared to Turks, though) towards the ME is actually not that different from another Christian from the same region, and they usually consider Turkish Islam as if it is something else. In practice, yes, it is something else. However, I believe it is due to the religious polarization during the War and being the target of the ME's influence, Western Balkanites tend to lack the same reflex and can climb up towards the Salafist orientation which makes them more radical in practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E1b1b View Post


    Islam is good for Balkans. If all balkanites were Muslims there would be peace in the Balkans.
    Islam is harmful to Europeans. The only way to unite the Balkanites is precisely against Islam. All united against Islamic cancer, let us kill every Muslim without distinction until purging Europe of Islam.

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    Dudes, it's nearly 2022 and some of you are still looking at the world through religion. Just imagine being like this, loooool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Dudes, it's nearly 2022 and some of you are still looking at the world through religion. Just imagine being like this, loooool
    So what phaggot. Get Islamic or gtfo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Lacas View Post
    Islam is harmful to Europeans. The only way to unite the Balkanites is precisely against Islam. All united against Islamic cancer, let us kill every Muslim without distinction until purging Europe of Islam.
    Lol good luck with that. You people have nothing to organise behind. Nothing that connects you. Allah connects us and our women are having enough kids to replace our warriors

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