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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    It seems a pretty anti german coalition.
    It's in fact pro German as it is pro all still existing ethnicities in the EU.

    And the clowns elected in the democratic circus are not Germany, but the result of a disadvantagous and unnatural condition that was transmitted to Germany in 1949 and has infested it since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    The one thing holding back a Nationalist to unite with another Nationalist is the hatred of other nationalities (...)
    Nationalism is not defined by being anti something but by being pro something. So it's not about hatred towards others, but love towards the own.

    Of course this will not hinder these, that have lost their emotional connection to their own, to continue with malicious interpretations.

    Some nationalists should be more considerate towards others, like one in general should be considerate. But I think that a cooperation is promoting such a consciousness.
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    now we have 1 and 1/2 + 1/2 global powers - US - multi culti, Russia multi-culti, China? no idea, so the only way to make Europe strong is to go that way
    (with the German leading role)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Nationalism is not defined by being anti something but by being pro something. So it's not about hatred towards others, but love towards the own.

    Of course this will not hinder these, that have lost their emotional connection to their own, to continue with malicious interpretations.

    Some nationalists should be more considerate towards others, like one in general should be considerate. But I think that a cooperation is promoting such a consciousness.
    I yet have to meet a Nationalist that doesn't hate at least one group of people. In practice Nationalism is fantasizing about a "stolen glorious past" and opposition to diversity of people. This myth of "pure nations" which is always exclusionary to at least some groups of people. See this forum, where almost everybody is some sort of Nationalist yet they constantly insult and ridicule each other's nationalities. In practice Nationalism only creates unnecessary division between humans who are by evolution part of the same species of apes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    I yet have to meet a Nationalist that doesn't hate at least one group of people.
    You have hundreds of nations/ethnicities and this is like the taste regarding food. Among so many you will also always find some that you do dislike much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    In practice Nationalism is fantasizing about a "stolen glorious past"
    I'm lilkely what is considered a nationalist. I see just a "worthy past" and think that that is a resonable view. Of course also many other nations/ethnicities have had a worthy past.

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    and opposition to diversity of people.
    Neither to the diversity of single indiviuals (people) nor to the diversity of ethnicities (people) is any opposition. The diversity of the latter may even be emphasised.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    This myth of "pure nations" which is always exclusionary to at least some groups of people.
    Yes, the exclusion of all that are not part of it. Like if you talk about different trees. The term oak will exclude all non-oaks from being an oak. It has nothing to do with a "myth" of "pure nations" (or pure oaks).

    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    See this forum, where almost everybody is some sort of Nationalist yet they constantly insult and ridicule each other's nationalities.
    That's true. But here also almost everybody has two feet. That dosn't mean that having two feet makes you insult others. Also, there are a lot of people out there in the world that have two feet and do not insult each other. And the same is applicable for nationalists.

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    In practice Nationalism only creates unnecessary division between humans who are by evolution part of the same species of apes.
    I would not consider that unnecessary. Why? Having groups of people that are separated from others and do consider each other different is elevating the intra-group solidarity and cohesion. This can be advantagous for all members of a particular group. An example for the contrary are the USA as a political entity with multiple ethnicities and races. It is not by chance that there are comaparably low taxes and hardly any social security. Because the people are so different and can not that well identify mutually, there is no readiness for more.
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    I wish them great success and hope more will join the alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veljo View Post
    now we have 1 and 1/2 + 1/2 global powers - US - multi culti, Russia multi-culti, China? no idea, so the only way to make Europe strong is to go that way
    (with the German leading role)
    I dont want a European Super Power, let alone German led.

    If you think Germany is not multi-culti, you are naive.

    Germany without any doubt, its basic math, wont have a ethnic Mayority within a few decades.

    Germany is a Business, not a country.

    Germany gotta be destroyed so it can live again, its a tumor.

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