View Poll Results: Which song from Bizet's Carmen is better?

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  • Toreador

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  • La Habanera

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Thread: Which song from Bizet's Carmen is better: Toreador or La Habanera?

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    La Habanera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    They scream a lot and everything is very loud, it seems like they are all in a madhouse, they should take a Valium.
    Not so unrealistic then - Spain is one of the loudest countries on Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Not so unrealistic then - Spain is one of the loudest countries on Earth.
    Another cliché, in crowds and celebrations where there are thousands of people it is easy to say that Spain is noisy, Las Fallas, Ferias and other multitudinous celebrations, holidays and crowded places.

    Not at all.


    This Opera is tremendously garish, evidently I don't recognize that madhouse.

    Please take a ton of Valium to these people who I don't know where they came from because they certainly didn't come from Spain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Another cliché, in crowds and celebrations where there are thousands of people it is easy to say that Spain is noisy, Las Fallas, Ferias and other multitudinous celebrations, holidays and crowded places.

    Not at all.


    This Opera is tremendously garish, evidently I don't recognize that madhouse.

    Please take a ton of Valium to these people who I don't know where they came from because they certainly didn't come from Spain.
    https://grupohla.com/es/prensa/espan...%20del%20mundo.

    But I don't want to go off-topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Traffic.... what a ridiculousness.

    Don't believe a lot of nonsense, Spain does that as publicity and tourist strategy, it knows that maintaining an idea or a certain topic will keep a certain idea of an exotic country necessary to attract tourism.

    In Spain you could fall asleep almost anywhere, it is quiet and boring as any other place, now the popular festivals attract a lot of people, it is cheap leisure and people are eager for entertainment and it is not that they shout but that there are many people, obviously there will be murmur.


    There must be a pharmacy on duty open, don't forget to take the valium to Carmen's.
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    Only one short hook in Toreador briefly repeated twice in this venue, arguably 4 flowing into one another in Habanera, so, the latter.

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    Habanera, because of the lyrics.

    L'amour est un oiseau rebelle
    Que nul ne peut apprivoiser
    Et c'est bien en vain qu'on l'appelle
    S'il lui convient de refuser
    Rien n'y fait, menace ou prière
    L'un parle bien, l'autre se tait
    Et c'est l'autre que je préfère
    Il n'a rien dit, mais il me plaît

    L'amour est enfant de bohème
    Il n'a jamais, jamais, connu de loi
    Si tu ne m'aimes pas, je t'aime
    Et si je t'aime, prends garde à toi
    Prends garde à toi
    Si tu ne m'aimes pas, si tu ne m'aimes pas, je t'aime
    Prends garde à toi
    Mais si je t'aime, si je t'aime, prends garde à toi

    L'oiseau que tu croyais surprendre
    Battit de l'aile et s'envola
    L'amour est loin, tu peux l'attendre
    Tu ne l'attends plus, il est là
    Tout autour de toi, vite, vite
    Il vient, s'en va, puis il revient
    Tu crois le tenir, il t'évite
    Tu crois l'éviter, il te tient
    And with Maria Callas better.


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    The Arthur episode about Carmen was my earliest introduction to opera:


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