Who ultimately cut off the South Slavs?

[Faklon]

Multiple effects and people.

Huns, Avars of course. Goths are not out of the equation, Slavs of the 5th century basically settled as farmers inside the Roman empire but the Germanic invansions in the north didn't stop.

Austro-Hungary, vlachization in the North and devlachization in the South, etc...

[Nurzat]

Very interesting with this Slavic administration language. It makes sense. What do you think about the area of Modolva down to the mouth of the Danube, how was this settled at abt. 1000 AD? The Foreigner stated that Romanians some time later expanded to Moldova and Wallachia from Transsylvania.

there is no sign of Vlachs until 14th century in Moldova, when the towns were still mostly non-Vlach (German, Hungarian). Moldovans are a mix done over six centuries of invading Vlachs and local Slavs that were living there, with additional local smaller populations that pre-dated Vlachs, like Hungarians, Germans or Cumans

[Peterski]

there was continuous Slavic inhabitance until recently, Bulgarians to Malorussians, in Dobrudja/Budjak.

No, it was not continuous since Medieval times.

It was broken by nomadic tribes in Medieval times, and was later re-established by new Slavic immigration into the region in the 1700s.

Most of present-day Southern Ukraine was settled by Slavs in the 1700s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya#History

[Faklon]

there is no sign of Vlachs until 14th century in Moldova, when the towns were still mostly non-Vlach (German, Hungarian). Moldovans are a mix done over six centuries of invading Vlachs and local Slavs that were living there, with additional local smaller populations that pre-dated Vlachs, like Hungarians, Germans or Cumans

No such thing as an invading Vlach, this should be an imperial Roman but impossible in that age.

Vlachness can only invade as an idea.

[vbnetkhio]

I have somewhere an interesting Slavic dialectal map that is concerning that area, that I'd like to post, but I've to search for it a little bit. I've no clue how such details are determined (or guessed).

In the meantime here's a map fron the 8th century from tha Alps and at that time even the Slavic connection through later German langauge area seems to have been existent.

maybe something like this:



Early slavic dialects, at the moment of their initial breakup

[Peterski]

Early slavic dialects, at the moment of their initial breakup

The legend explains 4 dialects but the map shows 5.

[Nurzat]

No such thing as an invading Vlach, this should be an imperial Roman but impossible in that age.

Vlachness can only invade as an idea.

not the best word, I agree, but the idea was of them entering the space so late

[Aspirin]

What do you think about the area of Modolva down to the mouth of the Danube, how was this settled at abt. 1000 AD?

Mostly Turkic nomads, Slavs here didn't lived at that time with exception of far north (today Chernivtsi Oblast in Ukraine).

[rothaer]

maybe something like this: (...)

It showed roughly Pannonia and then that detailed like Kajkavian etc. I'm still searching. But I'll not forget it!

[rothaer]

No such thing as an invading Vlach, this should be an imperial Roman but impossible in that age.

Vlachness can only invade as an idea.

The ultimate Vlachness is Włochy.

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%82ochy