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Thread: Do Ainu-looking phenotypes (ANE) also exist in the southern British Isles and Central Europe?

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    According to most recent studies modern Ainus have around 65-80% Jomon ancestry, who themselves were a mainly East-Eurasian population, from whom the so-called Mongoloid people originate from. The Japanese islands did get to a certain degree some West Eurasian admixture in prehistory, coming from Siberia, but the East Eurasian majority never changed there. Modern Ainus also did admix a lot with modern Japanese people, so they are overwhelmingly East Eurasian today.

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    Yes, and there have proven theories about Ainus descending from Central Asia, where they gained Caucasoid (West-Eurasian) admixture a long time ago from the Middle East or the Levant region, but then some of those Caucasoid genes have been absorbed from mixing with so many Mongoloids through gene flow, as time passes.
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    Ainu people are Paleo-Mongoloids and have nothing to do with ANE.

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    It is funny that Ainus where not closely related to west eurasians, It seems that convergent evolution made then look somewhat white.Their D y DNA is also interesting being shared only by some tibetans and andaman islanders.
    So maybe there were similarities but mostly coincidence , Just like you have some morrocans looking somewhat asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the Atlantic View Post
    It is funny that Ainus where not closely related to west eurasians, It seems that convergent evolution made then look somewhat white.Their D y DNA is also interesting being shared only by some tibetans and andaman islanders.
    So maybe there were similarities but mostly coincidence , Just like you have some morrocans looking somewhat asian.
    Another funny thing is that some Ainus look like Veddoids or even "Arabian Veddoids" but with no absolute link (and it's the haplogroup that these groups have a lot of difference upon each other) between two or three of those. Arabian Veddoids are predominantly Proto-Caucasoid with (some significant, idk how much) Paleo-Mongoloid influence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by princeton90 View Post
    Ainu people are Paleo-Mongoloids and have nothing to do with ANE.
    It's like saying Paleo-Sardinians are Paleo-Caucasoids and have nothing to do with WHG, although many jerks on TA forum claim that Paleo-Sardinians are also (part) Negroid because of their facial features (like when Berids, which are basically Paleo Sardinians were SSA-admixed). But, that's a different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrinjaNinja View Post
    It's like saying Paleo-Sardinians are Paleo-Caucasoids and have nothing to do with WHG, although many jerks on TA forum claim that Paleo-Sardinians are also (part) Negroid because of their facial features (like when Berids, which are basically Paleo Sardinians were SSA-admixed). But, that's a different story.
    Do you really think ANE and Ainu were closely related?

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    Yeah

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    Ainu-like like this ?





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    Ainus are already very East-Eurasians blood and they don't have full connections with ANE. I am, we have the hairiest Mongoloids in the world: the Ainu Jomons. There are also a plenty of other Mongoloids with strong body hair, such as Native Californians and the Kennewick Man, which is the ancient ancestor of proto Mongoloids such as Ainus. By the way, the Kennewick Man reminds me of Cheddar Man from the British Isles, except right now, we do not have any evidence to prove the genetic linkage between those two.
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