The Romanian-Albanian Linguistic Connection

[SilverKnight]

The Romanian-Albanian Linguistic Connection

[Nurzat]

there is zero real relevant connection, Romanian uses more Turkic, Slavic, Hungarian or German words..

[ixulescu]

Albanian is like English. It has a 60% Romance vocabulary but a non-Romance grammar.

[E1b1b]

Albanian is like English. It has a 60% Romance vocabulary but a non-Romance grammar.

There might be a connection between certain words in Romanian of Dacian origin and certain Albanian words. Illyrian could have been related to Dacian-Thracian languages.

[ixulescu]

There might be a connection between certain words in Romanian of Dacian origin and certain Albanian words. Illyrian could have been related to Dacian-Thracian languages.

That connection is tiny, not larger than the common vocabulary with the native Balkanite substrate from Bulgarian or Serbian.

Obviously, the commonality with the Romance vocabulary of Albanian is much greater, but overall Albanian is fully incomprehensible to Romanian speakers due to the isolated evolution of Albanian and the fact that it branches from a different family of Romance languages (possibly more related to Dalmatian).

[Nurzat]

There might be a connection between certain words in Romanian of Dacian origin and certain Albanian words. Illyrian could have been related to Dacian-Thracian languages.

in Romanian language doesn't go with genetics, language was recently imposed politically while genetically only southwest Romanians are Vlach, the others are mix of everything that were just linguistically Vlachized, and that happened very recently for many places, even as recently as a few decades ago (large chunks of Wallachia were Bulgarian speaking in the countryside, not to mention the hundreds of Slavic speaking villages across the country (Ukrainian, Russian, Polish, Slovak, Czech, Serb), or the million Germans that fled a few decades ago, or the two million Hungarians still living in Transylvania/Szeleky land/Partium etc).

a connection could have been only there where Vlachs came from, in the deep Balkans, northern Greece/Macedonia/Timok, but Vlachs don't descend from Dacians/Thracians, they descend from Levantine and Near Eastern colonists brought by the Romans to today's northern Greece/Macedonia

[E1b1b]

in Romanian language doesn't go with genetics, language was recently imposed politically while genetically only southwest Romanians are Vlach, the others are mix of everything that were just linguistically Vlachized, and that happened very recently for many places, even as recently as a few decades ago (large chunks of Wallachia were Bulgarian speaking in the countryside, not to mention the hundreds of Slavic speaking villages across the country (Ukrainian, Russian, Polish, Slovak, Czech, Serb), or the million Germans that fled a few decades ago, or the two million Hungarians still living in Transylvania/Szeleky land/Partium etc).

a connection could have been only there where Vlachs came from, in the deep Balkans, northern Greece/Macedonia/Timok, but Vlachs don't descend from Dacians/Thracians, they descend from Levantine and Near Eastern colonists brought by the Romans to today's northern Greece/Macedonia

That’s first I’m hearing of this. Why are their paternal and maternal clades European then?

[ixulescu]

That’s first I’m hearing of this. Why are their paternal and maternal clades European then?

You heard it the first time here because it's nonsense. Vlachs are Romanized Dacians in the north and Romanized Thracians and Illyrians in the south, who were later Slavicized to a smaller or larger extent.

[ixulescu]

in Romanian language doesn't go with genetics, language was recently imposed politically while genetically only southwest Romanians are Vlach, the others are mix of everything that were just linguistically Vlachized, and that happened very recently for many places, even as recently as a few decades ago (large chunks of Wallachia were Bulgarian speaking in the countryside, not to mention the hundreds of Slavic speaking villages across the country (Ukrainian, Russian, Polish, Slovak, Czech, Serb), or the million Germans that fled a few decades ago, or the two million Hungarians still living in Transylvania/Szeleky land/Partium etc).

That's bullshit. Even 100 years ago, during the Greater Romania times, 70% of the population was Romanian. The rest were mostly Hungarians, Germans and Jews. Only then, the entire Slavic speaking population of Romania (comprising of Ruthenians, Russians, Bulgarians, Serbs etc) was numerically similar to that of Hungarians.

20 years ago Romanians were already 90% of the population. The rest were Hungarians and Gypsies. Slavic population is almost completely assimilated.

[Nurzat]

You heard it the first time here because it's nonsense. Vlachs are Romanized Dacians in the north and Romanized Thracians and Illyrians in the south, who were later Slavicized to a smaller or larger extent.

I don't think Romans could have Romanized native Balkanites in Greece, I think they could have rather make their soldier implants/colonists become Roman (and learn/speak Latin badly but lacking another language, using that to communicate between themselves). over the years to this day of course they blended in and absorbed natives as well, but my guess is that the basis of Vlachs is Roman colonists exclusively, maybe with some local women (by local I mean northern Greece/Macedonia)