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    Since both my geno and phenotype are somewhat chaotic (depending on lighting and angle my looks can change pretty drastically), I identify with both in equal measures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    I now understand that I maybe not expressed completely clearly.

    But first to your understanding of my question, i. e. with added education, experiences etc. I understand that this is impoprtant for how we are. But if we compare you today (with all education and all experience) with you when you were 10 years old, this is the same identity, I guess. You would not say: Hey, wait, this with 10 is that different, that's not me anymore! Right?

    Back to what I meant. When I said phenotype I still just meant all what is the results of genetics. An example: I have brown eyes. So thats my phenotype eye colour. My genotype eyecolour is brown-blue, i. e. I've one allel for brown and one for blue. After brown is dominant and blue is recessive it expresses as brown in me. When I breed children, some get brown and some get blue eyes. These with blues eyes only get blue eyes, because they inherited my blue allel. And if a child inherits my brown allel, it gets brown eyes. Now, I do not just identify with having brown eyes (phenotype), but with having a blue-brown genotype. So the passed down blue allel is equally "me" as a passed down brown allel, regardless that I have brown eyes if you look into my face. Because what you see if you look into my face is just one expression of me. Another expression of me is what children I do breed. That's not less an expression of mine.
    So it's this what my poll question is about.
    Ye so you pass down your genes, and because a persons outward look is almost entirely genetic, if we doesnt count nutrition, or living conditions- so your kids will inherit some of your code variables, and for you he/she will have some characteristics of you. On the other hand that is a new human being which has its mothers genetics too,so the probability of variations the offspring can inherit is even more complicated. I have red hair and blue eyes variants, but my phenotype is darker in complexion. I will go with genotype in this meaning. My kid can have easily other features if his mother have similar genetics to mine, or even more if she has lets say dominantly inherited the blue eyes.

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    double post.
    Last edited by Jana; 12-16-2021 at 09:21 PM.

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    Phenotype can be misleading. Stears is good example. He is south-eastern/meddish/balkanic shifted for Hungarian with increased Asian DNA, and he was predicted to have brown eyes and dark hair on some sites.
    However he looks lighter and more northern than his genetics implies.
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    I identify solely with my Y-DNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by E1b1b View Post
    I identify solely with my Y-DNA
    As far as your name is E1b1b that sounds plausible.

    But seriously, I've met a couple of individuals that actually do. I then wonder if the changed identity when DNA testing came up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Phenotype can be misleading. Stears is good example. He is south-eastern/meddish/balkanic shifted for Hungarian with increased Asian DNA, and he carry brown eyes and dark hair variants as well.
    However he looks lighter and more northern than his genetics implies.
    The phenotype makes all that is recessive invisible (With visible I mean not just visible to the eye, but also immunology, mental traits etc.). And that's a rather big proportion of all what we carry and pass down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E1b1b View Post
    I identify solely with my Y-DNA
    I even know someone that is convinced of that various Y DNA haplogropus are defining "races", regardless of what autosomal DNA someone has. And regardless of that there is not so much genetic information at the Y compared to other chromosomes. So this is developing somewhat into the direction of a belief, detached from the common sense of current science.
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    It makes 0 sense to identify with hg because we all have ancestors with various haplogroups.

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    Woah, this is some heavy stuff, doc. It's too early in the morning here.


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