To the people still supporting vaccines and vaccine mandates? Why do you still support them?

[Zeno]

I really want you to elaborate on that... Because the vaccines, under the premises of what Western governments promised at the beginning, were supposed to grant citizens all their liberties back after the lockdowns and the subsequent restrictions in movement and various rights. Well, fast forward 1 year later, and the exact opposite has happened: freedoms have lessened, dramatically.

Right now, you need to show a vaccine certificate and your ID to restaurants, cafés, shops of all services almost (except supermarkets and pharmacies thankfully) if you're vaccinated. if you're unvaccinated, even if you're negative to the virus according to rapid or PCR testing, you're not allowed in. No epidemiological reasoning.

The various governments said that once we reached 60% of the population to be vaccinated, then all measures, be it masks, be it lockdowns, nationwide or local, and restrictions between the citizenry would cease to exist entirely. Yet, the Netherlands recently went into a lockdown... With a vaccination coverage of 85%. Denmark yesterday went into another lockdown, with almost 90% vaccination. New Zealand in August was closed entirely because of 1 (yes, one) case, with a vaccination coverage of 80+%. 3 of Australia's states went into successive lockdowns in early fall with cases numbered at the fingers of one hand, with vaccination over 80+% also. Now Australia is also preparing special facilities for COVID patients that are basically concentration camps and are an official measure of the government.

They said to you we would return back to normal. When? Honestly, when? From tomorrow, all travelers to and from Greece, as well as in any other country, will reinstate mandatory PCR testing for everyone, vaccinated or not. As aforementioned, you are required to show either a vaccine, disease or testing certificate for services and now, they impose restrictions which make absolutely no epidemologic sense towards the unvaccinated. And now, you have to be triple vaccinated, and not double vaccinated, in order to be considered "fully" vaccinated. And the certificates of disease from COVID-19 are now going to be of less duration than those of vaccination certificates, despite the fact that natural immunity is longer-lasting than that caused by vaccination. No need to mention blatantly undemocratic mandates to enforce vaccination, which literally was promised to not be done, on behalf of the same governments that currently apply them. What a mediocre joke.

All of that for a virus with a mortality rate well below 0.5%. What would happen if it was slightly or substantially higher? What will happen now? Because it's been 2 years now ever since this started, and I haven't managed to live, speaking as a student, a normal uni life. And everyone hasn't lived a normal life for that period of time. When will all of this just stop?

[Cybele]

They said to you we would return back to normal. When? Honestly, when?

No, they never said we would return to normal. Returning to the normal as we knew (before 2020) is an utopia/ Sci-Fi.

[Arūnas]

With the UK struggling with the omicron variant, Germany declared all travelers from the UK will be asked to quarantine for two weeks even with a negative coronavirus test.

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-germany-...ons/a-60183851

[Creoda]

[RogueState]

You are still naively believing all the COVID narrative and not understand the blatant Great Reset program behind it ?

Since DAY 1 in March 2020, I knew it was a big scam over a flu that is an excuse to more control the people in order to prevent revolts/reforms against the failing model of financial-global capitalism.

[Finnish Swede]

No, they never said we would return to normal. Returning to the normal as we knew (before 2020) is an utopia/ Sci-Fi.

Latest studies shows that there might have been corona virus(es) in humans history. Early days. That/those might have not spread all over the World, because lack of travelling, evidences are found at least from Asia, but opposite virus(es) might stayed/lived among of humans pretty long time; even hundreds to thousands of years ... leaving marks to those people DNAs.

Now what 1 or 2 years are? A pretty good ''Wake Up'' call?

We can thank that western medicine is pretty developed today.

[Cybele]

Latest studies shows that there might have been corona virus(es) in humans history. Early days. That/those might have not spread all over the World, because lack of travelling, evidences are found at least from Asia, but opposite virus(es) might stayed/lived among of humans pretty long time; even hundreds to thousands of years ... leaving marks to those people DNAs.

Now what 1 or 2 years are? A pretty good ''Wake Up'' call?

We can thank that western medicine is pretty developed today.

These are not my words. Those are the words of someone with much greater decisional power, than I (or any of us) will ever have .

[Bigby]

You don't want to understand that COVID despite having a negligible effect on youngsters it has a major effect on old people, especially those with comorbidities. These people in turn end up filling the ICU over the top, overflowing the entire medical system. Since hospitals can't refuse the unvaccinated (yet) these fools end up taking the place of someone who really needs it, like those suffering from cancers, those who have been in an accident, or others with n other chronic diseases.In worst case they take the spot of children who have all their life ahead of them and can't go through a simple operation as the hospital bed, equipment and medical staff is all taken and converted into COVID ward.

You don't want to understand that the chance of getting a side effect like acute myocarditis from mRNA vaccine or blood clots from Astra is astronomical, you've got a higher chance of getting hit by a thunder strike.

Seems to me like you're just a selfish prick, you're not even vaccinated so you're not contributing to COVID'S demise.

[Lemminkäinen]

Latest studies shows that there might have been corona virus(es) in humans history. Early days. That/those might have not spread all over the World, because lack of travelling, evidences are found at least from Asia, but opposite virus(es) might stayed/lived among of humans pretty long time; even hundreds to thousands of years ... leaving marks to those people DNAs.

Now what 1 or 2 years are? A pretty good ''Wake Up'' call?

We can thank that western medicine is pretty developed today.

Corona viruses have been among us always.

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that usually cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold.

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-c.../coronaviruses

I had just one, so I may be now a bit more immune for Covid-19 too.

[catgeorge]

You don't want to understand that COVID despite having a negligible effect on youngsters it has a major effect on old people, especially those with comorbidities. These people in turn end up filling the ICU over the top, overflowing the entire medical system. Since hospitals can't refuse the unvaccinated (yet) these fools end up taking the place of someone who really needs it, like those suffering from cancers, those who have been in an accident, or others with n other chronic diseases.In worst case they take the spot of children who have all their life ahead of them and can't go through a simple operation as the hospital bed, equipment and medical staff is all taken and converted into COVID ward.

You don't want to understand that the chance of getting a side effect like acute myocarditis from mRNA vaccine or blood clots from Astra is astronomical, you've got a higher chance of getting hit by a thunder strike.

Seems to me like you're just a selfish prick, you're not even vaccinated so you're not contributing to COVID'S demise.

It's a contagious virus you can't stop it vaccinated or not. People need to live their lives in freedom PERIOD.