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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    There aren't English subtitles. Which are the "bad vaccines"?
    Those who give you anticores that facilitate the infection in the first place. It's a known epidemiologic effect he calls anticores facilitators. It happened in the past with for example the Dengue vaccine. On the data he presents, there s a rise of infections after the shots, consistent over time and numbers of shots. He even thinks it's under reported as they tell people they could get sick after an injection, so they think they might have side effects, in many cases it must be the corona but most people will have mild symptoms or even don't know about it, also people vaccinated tend to test less. More generally, he shows that the vaccine hasn't controlled the epidemy around the world and poor countries are better off, while not vaccinated.



    Highest peak of contamination is with all the doses, booster and whatever. The more you get shots the more likely you are getting infected by Omicron. Another epidemiologist Martin Blachier stated the same on french tv, even that omicron is selecting vaccinated people, and that's why we have another rise while most are vaccinated in rich countries and we see the same rise in countries where near 99% of the population is vaccinated (like Iceland). Not only these pseudo vaccines suck to protect anybody but they actually facilitate the epidemy at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Those who give you anticores that facilitate the infection in the first place. It's a known epidemiologic effect he calls anticores facilitators. It happened in the past with for example the Dengue vaccine. On the data he presents, there s a rise of infections after the shots, consistent over time and numbers of shots. He even thinks it's under reported as they tell people they could get sick after an injection, so they think they might have side effects, in many cases it must be the corona but most people will have mild symptoms or even don't know about it, also people vaccinated tend to test less. More generally, he shows that the vaccine hasn't controlled the epidemy around the world and poor countries are better off, while not vaccinated.



    Highest peak of contamination is with all the doses, booster and whatever. The more you get shots the more likely you are getting infected by Omicron. Another epidemiologist Martin Blachier stated the same on french tv, even that omicron is selecting vaccinated people, and that's why we have another rise while most are vaccinated in rich countries and we see the same rise in countries where near 99% of the population is vaccinated (like Iceland). Not only these pseudo vaccines suck to protect anybody but they actually facilitate the epidemy at this point.

    Well subsharan countries use ivermectin : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7968425/ (even if CNN says it's a "horse medicine thus dangerous for humans". They do not use it specifically against covid though, they have been using it for years against parasites, I also read they used it against certain viruses before)

    Another thing to consider is that covid kills fat people disproportionately : https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/2/...-church-christ
    There are a lot of fat people in western countries (which are coincidentally the most vaxinated) and there are barely any fat people in SSA.
    Furthermore, covid kills old people more than young people and populations in Africa countries are much younger on avarage than in Europe.

    I wanted to share this meme because I find it funny. Despite that, I don't want to blame the scientists who engineered the covid vaccines, I'm sure they're trying to do their best. I follow a virologist guy on FB (also ex-teacher at a medical university), he wrote that it's very hard if not impossible to create a good vaxine against covid (a vaxine which prevents the spread of the virus) because covid is unique, because of its unique molecular structure or whatever, I don't remember.
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    More educational video about the actual science on this epidemy:



    The vaccine has no efficiency against Omicron, there are even evidences now it causes even more contamination with it and he explained why it could be in his last video because the vaccine facilitates the infection to try to kill the virus ... the problem it's not working anymore with the following variants, so you are just getting contaminated more easily with the vaccine.

    It was already debatable with Delta if the vaccine was working. In a nutshell, all the effort was put on to control the spike protein, and it's clear with the phylogenic tree that Omicron is far from what the vaccine is supposed to treat (Delta was distant already)

    Latest stats


    Per 100k tested positives:

    Unvaccinated: 1092
    1 Dose : 2499
    2 Doses : 1527
    3 Doses and/or booster : 1466


    Phylogenic tree of the virus and its variants:



    'Marseille' is the original virus they sequenced in the institute and its weekly variants (about every 15 days you get little random mutations)
    (It reads exactly like the trees we use in genetics, Omicron is genetically far from the original virus)


    Of course instead of this type of epidemiologist experts who actually know what they are talking about, we get random cooks on TV explaining that bouuh everybody needs to get vaccinated or we all gonna die. They can't be more wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    More educational video about the actual science on this epidemy:



    The vaccine has no efficiency against Omicron, there are even evidences now it causes even more contamination with it and he explained why it could be in his last video because the vaccine facilitates the infection to try to kill the virus ... the problem it's not working anymore with the following variants, so you are just getting contaminated more easily with the vaccine.

    It was already debatable with Delta if the vaccine was working. In a nutshell, all the effort was put on to control the spike protein, and it's clear with the phylogenic tree that Omicron is far from what the vaccine is supposed to treat (Delta was distant already)

    Latest stats


    Per 100k tested positives:

    Unvaccinated: 1092
    1 Dose : 2499
    2 Doses : 1527
    3 Doses and/or booster : 1466


    Phylogenic tree of the virus and its variants:



    'Marseille' is the original virus they sequenced in the institute and its weekly variants (about every 15 days you get little random mutations)
    (It reads exactly like the trees we use in genetics, Omicron is genetically far from the original virus)


    Of course instead of this type of epidemiologist experts who actually know what they are talking about, we get random cooks on TV explaining that bouuh everybody needs to get vaccinated or we all gonna die. They can't be more wrong.
    Very misleading statistics. There should be also inoculation standardization, because the number of people with 2 doses is likely much higher than the number of unvaccinated or people received only 1 shot. I only want to see proper statistics. And yes, Omicron has changed the game. Now vaccines don't protect health care resources against Covid. Politicians are clueless. We likely have still bad times ahead if "the big pharma" doesn't invent a drug against severe adverse effect. It is too slow in making effective vaccines against new Covid variants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Very misleading statistics. There should be also inoculation standardization, because the number of people with 2 doses is likely much higher than the number of unvaccinated or people received only 1 shot. I only want to see proper statistics. And yes, Omicron has changed the game. Now vaccines don't protect health care resources against Covid. Politicians are clueless. We likely have still bad times ahead if "the big pharma" doesn't invent a drug against severe adverse effect. It is too slow in making effective vaccines against new Covid variants.
    It's likely higher, more people pcr tested positive with 2 shots, 54k compared to 14K for the unvaccinated at the end of December for example. It's still a rate per 100k.

    With 1 dose for half the people tested positive, you get double the contamination at the same date for the vaccinated against unvaccinated. Even with a 3rd dose at about 10k tested you get 902 for the vaccinated and 700 for the unvaccinated, it just has no effect. Best case it isn't doing anything detrimental and is useless. Last resort is to tell it protects against the worse effects of the virus, but it can't be demonstrated easily as he explains, which is likely why it's their last arguments to sell shots after renouncing about that it protects against the virus and its transmission. Countries with all their population vaccinated still get the most positives as it ever been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    It's likely higher, more people pcr tested positive with 2 shots, 54k compared to 14K for the unvaccinated at the end of December for example. It's still a rate per 100k.

    With 1 dose for half the people tested positive, you get double the contamination at the same date for the vaccinated against unvaccinated. Even with a 3rd dose at about 10k tested you get 902 for the vaccinated and 700 for the unvaccinated, it just has no effect. Best case it isn't doing anything detrimental and is useless. Last resort is to tell it protects against the worse effects of the virus, but it can't be demonstrated easily as he explains, which is likely why it's their last arguments to sell shots after renouncing about that it protects against the virus and its transmission. Countries with all their population vaccinated still get the most positives as it ever been.
    I agree with you. "The big pharma" has gone after easy money. Especially the mRNA was seen a way to gather easily big profits. They simply modelled some parts of the spike protein without considering which part is essential for the virus. So they modelled the part which is its strongest weapon in war against immunity mutating frequently. They were too straightforward and saw big profits and didn't took into account mutations. Virus surprised, but should they have known it, being best professionals.

    What I see in your statistics is numbers of tested positive in groups unvaccinated and 2 shots. The ratio is around 4, meaning 80% vaccination rate assuming equality between groups, but the rate is likely higher. IDK. These statistics doezn't give answers to severity of sockness. Anyway "the big pharma" has obviously failed and succeeded better in gathering money. The last effort is to protect people against the severe form Covid and saving health care, but today in Finland patients in intensive care split into groups 39% 2 shots and 61% unvaccinated or one shot. The group 2 shots is rising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    I agree with you. "The big pharma" has gone after easy money. Especially the mRNA was seen a way to gather easily big profits. They simply modelled some parts of the spike protein without considering which part is essential for the virus. So they modelled the part which is its strongest weapon in war against immunity mutating frequently. They were too straightforward and saw big profits and didn't took into account mutations. Virus surprised, but should they have known it, being best professionals.

    What I see in your statistics is numbers of tested positive in groups unvaccinated and 2 shots. The ratio is around 4, meaning 80% vaccination rate assuming equality between groups, but the rate is likely higher. IDK. These statistics doezn't give answers to severity of sockness. Anyway "the big pharma" has obviously failed and succeeded better in gathering money. The last effort is to protect people against the severe form Covid and saving health care, but today in Finland patients in intensive care split into groups 39% 2 shots and 61% unvaccinated or one shot. The group 2 shots is rising.
    It seems to provide a short bust of immunity when you get the vaccine then decreases quickly. Raoult also compared previously the levels of anticores between vaccinated and unvaccinated. Higher anticores were found 48h after a shot then drops dramatically to go back to normal unvaccinated after a week. So theorically we would need to get a shot every week to have any benefit. Millions of lemmings are beta testing it really.

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    Lies take a lift, truth takes the stairs

    Nobody died unvaccinated under 60. Now the shitshow is over, real stats begin to appear and honest medics have to admit the vaccine was useless for the vast majority of people, despite the daily propaganda to get people jabbed, and statistical lies this very journalist kept spreading everyday (Pujadas is one of the biggest media lackey of the current governement)


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