Being Arab = being born in Arabian world + being a Muslim

[Borealis]

What irritates me about borealis is that he thinks he knows about populatioms he has no idea about other than a few google image searches and outdatef autosmal calculators . Yes, Muslim egyptians especially from the north aren't too different from southern levantines like Palestinians. Alot of them don't even show any SSA influence except maybe curly / frizzy hair .

???

The main and primary difference between Egyptians and Coptics as well as Palestinians is just SSA. You take that out and they are actually very similar. BUT, even 10-15% SSA makes a world of difference as far as where they plot. It is a very diverged component same as East Asian.

"Few outdated calcs". New calcs will not shift the fundamental realities.

[StonyArabia]

Looks like someone is ashamed of being an Christian Arab.

Possibly but he is writing nonsense. Equating Islam to Arab is nonsense and laughable. It’s the Christian groups that don’t consider themselves Arabs, although this depends on them and the individual. If what he is saying correct than Kurds and Turkmens would be considered Arabs but they are not. There has been violent clashes between Arabs and Kurds in Iraq and both are Muslim.Christian Bedouin’s in Jordan have much greater status than Muslim Circassian or Chechen, and Turkmens. Arab Christians in Iraq or those who identified as Arab were treated like any other Arab. The list goes on. As for Maronites they chose to identify as Phoenicians to justify their rule over Lebanon, and many of them are part Arabian especially from the Ghassanids or Qurashi. Yeah Arabians/Arabs can be of any religion. There are several Christian Bedouin tribes in Jordan and some in Syria are , the Akasheh, Hejazian, Haslaeh, Al-Twal, some Tayyid clans those are the biggest ones. No one cares that they are Christian lol. It’s more of MENA Christian whining. Interesting fact many Iraqi Turkmens are Roman Catholics. The whining seems to be mostly from Semitic Christians ME, though the Christian Bedouin mentality is different from theirs.

[Östsvensk]

Up to 20% Egyptians mtDNA is Sub-Saharan, so calculating based on that would give about 10% Negroid admixture.

Ancient Egyptian mummy genomes suggest an increase of Sub-Saharan African ancestry in post-Roman periods
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694

Modern Egyptians share this profile but in addition show a marked increase of African mtDNA lineages L0–L4 up to 20% (consistent with nuclear estimates of 80% non-African ancestry reported in Pagani et al.17). Genetic continuity between ancient and modern Egyptians cannot be ruled out by our formal test despite this sub-Saharan African influx, while continuity with modern Ethiopians17, who carry >60% African L lineages, is not supported (Supplementary Data 5).

Which I guess is consistent with the MDLP K14 spreadsheet estimating an average of 9%:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets..._kc/edit#gid=0

The Eurogenes K7 spreadsheet estimates more than that with an average of 17%:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1681484272

[happycow]

What is the "'arabian world?" Arabia, Levant and Iraq?

[Borealis]

What is the "'arabian world?" Arabia, Levant and Iraq?

I more or less see it that way. Egypt can be added to that list but everything west of it to me isn’t really the Arab world.

[Östsvensk]

What is the "'arabian world?" Arabia, Levant and Iraq?

The countries that are in the Arab League?

Algeria
Bahrain
Comoros
Djibouti
Egypt
Iraq
Jordan
Kuwait
Lebanon
Libya
Mauritania
Morocco
Oman
Palestine
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Somalia
Sudan
Syria (suspended)[1]
Tunisia
United Arab Emirates
Yemen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League

[happycow]

The countries that are in the Arab League?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League

Some of these are just arabic speaking negroes. They are not arab to me.

[Borealis]

And berbers who speak a creole dialect of Berber languages Arabic and French/Italian/Spanish

[Östsvensk]

[Avicenna]

???

The main and primary difference between Egyptians and Coptics as well as Palestinians is just SSA. You take that out and they are actually very similar. BUT, even 10-15% SSA makes a world of difference as far as where they plot. It is a very diverged component same as East Asian.

"Few outdated calcs". New calcs will not shift the fundamental realities.

No it's really not . You think it's that's fucking straightforward lol? I swear man why did you even come back to this forum ?