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    I personally believe he's just a gatekeeper, but with his rhetoric he's a very good first step, for a solution in regards to France's problems, especially when it comes to immigration and demographics.

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    We talked about it, its hard to really judge him without speaking french.

    I certainly dislike his strong secularism.

    But he seems to be good enough to influence the overton window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    I personally believe he's just a gatekeeper, but with his rhetoric he's a very good first step, for a solution in regards to France's problems, especially when it comes to immigration and demographics.
    Is there any other option in France beside him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post

    I certainly dislike his strong secularism.
    Could you please explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post

    I certainly dislike his strong secularism.
    Secularism is a large concept. Some people use it to harm Christianity. But understood a certain way, it is totally compatible with Christianity, and it is even said to be the product of Christianity and to be inherent to it (cf. for ex. the Catholic René Girard, one of the greatest spirits of our time, in Christianity and Modernity, and that’s also what Zemmour says).

    Also, Zemmour has always defended the public expression of Christianity and he constantly refers to France as being “the Church’s eldest daughter”, an expression also used by some popes in order to recall France’s promises of fidelity to the Church, to God.

    This is a recent tweet from Zemmour:



    “Secularism may, indeed, contain the Islamic offensive. But I think it will not suffice. There must be a real renewal of the Christian religion, which embodies the identity of France.”

    He also went to Armenia last month to defend the Christian civilisation, saying the cradle of our civilisation lies there (on the other hand, Europe and the pope are silent regarding the Armenian tragedy). He told the Armenians that they have been a model of resistance for centuries, in the middle of an Islamic ocean. He said then we have to learn lessons from the peoples who don’t want to die, making also a comparison with what is often called the Vendean genocide (Catholics from Vendée exterminated in France at the time of the French Revolution).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Is there any other option in France beside him?
    Marine Le Pen and the National Rally Party,a national conservative party near of Viktor Orban vision,my first choice ,but well ,if EZ is leading why not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    We talked about it, its hard to really judge him without speaking french.
    I encountered the same problem, I have been trying to find some of his publications in Portuguese or even English but without success. He seems to be an interesting character but at the same time his candidacy separated from that of Le Pen will likely further fragment the French right instead of uniting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    I encountered the same problem, I have been trying to find some of his publications in Portuguese or even English but without success. He seems to be an interesting character but at the same time his candidacy separated from that of Le Pen will likely further fragment the French right instead of uniting it.
    German right wing intellectuals like Benedikt Kaiser say exactly the same but I also heard that LePen moderated herself and the party in a sense that it isnt truthful to its roots, so maybe thats why there was a need for Zemmour that seems to be way more principled and has a understanding of metapolitics.

    The fragmentation of the right wing voting demographic could be horrible if neither of them reach the 2nd round of the presidential election, but if one of them manages to do so, he/she will receive the votes of the other from the first round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    German right wing intellectuals like Benedikt Kaiser say exactly the same but I also heard that LePen moderated herself and the party in a sense that it isnt truthful to its roots, so maybe thats why there was a need for Zemmour that seems to be way more principled and has a understanding of metapolitics.

    The fragmentation of the right wing voting demographic could be horrible if neither of them reach the 2nd round of the presidential election, but if one of them manages to do so, he/she will receive the votes of the other from the first round.
    Zemmour's main advantage compared to Le Pen is that he is Jewish. This allows him to be openly more controversial and less moderate in his speech since he belongs to a French ethnic minority and is not so prone to being labaled in the same way that Le Pen would be with with the exact same rethoric. From what I understand, he is also more intellectual and academic, something that the French middle class tends to appreciate, while Le Pen tends to resonate more with the working class population of periphereal regions in France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    Zemmour's main advantage compared to Le Pen is that he is Jewish. This allows him to be openly more controversial and less moderate in his speech since he belongs to a French ethnic minority and is not so prone to being labaled in the same way that Le Pen would be with with the exact same rethoric. From what I understand, he is also more intellectual and academic, something that the French middle class tends to appreciate, while Le Pen tends to resonate more with the working class population of periphereal regions in France.
    The problem is that people in 2021 think that holding back out of fear from a media smear campaign is already a problem, regardless of his ethnicity he is fully aware of the overton-window concept.

    Le Pen is smeared regardless of what she does and as the overton-window since decades turns to the left, moderate right wing positions are now considered far right.

    With every apology, advanced obedience or failed establishment of alternative media, the right will always lose.

    Thinking of all of that, you convinced me I support Zemmour form now on.

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