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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    I think they are very limited or obsessed wtih islam-criticism
    Yes. Because they know who they serve for..



    Islam or muslims, what you call, arent enemy of France. Arent enemy of any part of Europe either. Millions of muslims live in Russia, any issues except Usa-Saudi backed Chechens?

    Half a century with Turkish guest workers in Germany=

    ---Any bomb attacks?
    ---Any mass murders?
    ---Anybody forcefully converted to islam?
    ---Any Germans beheaded?
    ---Have they even tried to take revenge of Solingen?

    This modern anti-islamic narrative has a sole purpose. If we look at those jews like Eric Zemnour, Ben Shapiro, Geert Wilders, what do we see? Their agenda is basically just to raise support for Israel, while Isreal is fighting its eternal enemies islamic nations.

    White people once again dumb.

    White people once again taken hostage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Yes. Because they know who they serve for..



    Islam or muslims, what you call, arent enemy of France. Arent enemy of any part of Europe either. Millions of muslims live in Russia, any issues except Usa-Saudi backed Chechens?

    Half a century with Turkish guest workers in Germany=

    ---Any bomb attacks?
    ---Any mass murders?
    ---Anybody forcefully converted to islam?
    ---Any Germans beheaded?
    ---Have they even tried to take revenge of Solingen?

    This modern anti-islamic narrative has a sole purpose. If we look at those jews like Eric Zemnour, Ben Shapiro, Geert Wilders, what do we see? Their agenda is basically just to raise support for Israel, while Isreal is fighting its eternal enemies islamic nations.

    White people once again dumb.

    White people once again taken hostage.
    Didn't expect this coming from you.

    Mashallah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Didn't expect this coming from you.

    Mashallah
    Fight islam itself= im your 1st soldier. But this jews arent fighting islam. Theyre fighting for jews and Israel. This anti-islamic narrative is part of their agenda to "enslave" white people with this propaganda. Theyre showing white people a "fake enemy" to hide the real enemy which are those jews themselves.

    Is europe a better place after Israel war of Syria? Is the result better for europe after killing of Israel's enemy Gaddafi?

    Its painful to see that white people are fooled to be servants of jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    French people have no concept of ethno-nationalism, everyone can be french for them aslong they accept the French values and are french nationals.
    It doesnt work, obviously, but thats how they see it anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    I know. I wonder why do any of these French right wingers care about immigration and demographics at all? I wonder why do they have right-wingers at all?

    What are French values that Maghrebis and ethnic French (if there is a such a thing nowadays) share that any other man or most other people in the world don't or wouldn't share? You need to learn French and object to speaking English in public?
    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    But what does defines a integrated French person? What values? In a political, ideological and philosophical highly polarized society, what room is there for common values all agree on?

    Isnt the polarization and western individualism a giant factor that assimilation cant really happen? Assimilate to what? A society purely based on individualism contradicts the concept of assimilation and integration as each individual is split in subcultures.
    The French conception of nationalism currently in use and promoted by the system in place comes from the French Revolution and is linked to the Lumières’ principles. But France doesn’t start with that. And since the time of the Revolution and the institutionalisation of the principles of the Lumières, of universalism, meant to destroy the traditional society, there are people who resist, there are reactionaries. And actually, the term “reactionary” appeared at the time of the French revolution, referring to those opposed to the revolutionaries. For ex., the politicians-poets Maurice Barrès (1862-1923) and Charles Maurras (1868-1952) are two great representatives of the counter-revolutionary, anti-Lumières, ethno-nationalistic French tradition.

    The French ethno-nationalists are heirs of a pre-revolutionary mindset and they aim at the perennity of the people rooted in the territory of France and its traditions.

    And it is not “French values” that are constantly referred to and promoted by the system in place, but “the values of the Republic”, which means nothing and everything at the same time, in order to encompass as many people as possible. Meanwhile, France and the French values are trampled all over, humiliated. Macron even went as far as saying that “there is no French culture”!

    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    What is he going to change to immigration and demographics? It's too late for that.
    As an Iberian, I particularly keep in mind that the Reconquista lasted seven centuries. And of course there are things that Zemmour could do as a president. A very significant part of the Africans/Muslims have a double nationality and a very significant part of these people are criminals and delinquents. It should be possible to deprive them from their French ID and to send them to their country of origin. Nowadays, it’s extremely rare to send them back in their country, even when they receive an obligation to leave the territory, but it’s a matter of political will. Also, Zemmour proposed to ban money transfer by immigrants to the countries refusing to take back their illegal immigrants, their criminals.
    Last edited by Laly; 01-07-2022 at 07:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Yes. Because they know who they serve for..
    Islam or muslims, what you call, arent enemy of France. Arent enemy of any part of Europe either. Millions of muslims live in Russia, any issues except Usa-Saudi backed Chechens?
    Half a century with Turkish guest workers in Germany=
    ---Any bomb attacks?
    ---Any mass murders?
    ---Anybody forcefully converted to islam?
    ---Any Germans beheaded?
    ---Have they even tried to take revenge of Solingen?
    This modern anti-islamic narrative has a sole purpose. If we look at those jews like Eric Zemnour, Ben Shapiro, Geert Wilders, what do we see? Their agenda is basically just to raise support for Israel, while Isreal is fighting its eternal enemies islamic nations.
    White people once again dumb.
    White people once again taken hostage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Fight islam itself= im your 1st soldier. But this jews arent fighting islam. Theyre fighting for jews and Israel. This anti-islamic narrative is part of their agenda to "enslave" white people with this propaganda. Theyre showing white people a "fake enemy" to hide the real enemy which are those jews themselves.
    Is europe a better place after Israel war of Syria? Is the result better for europe after killing of Israel's enemy Gaddafi?
    Its painful to see that white people are fooled to be servants of jews.
    All you say is so typical of the Muslim mindset...

    What you say is really contemptuous towards Europeans. We don’t need the Jews to understand the danger represented by Islam and Muslims. Islam has always been the enemy of Christendom. Islam and its prophet Muhammad even present themselves as the enemies of Christendom, of non-Muslims. And the European feeling was actually born in opposition with Islam. It is indeed in a Mozarabic chronicle of the battle of Poitiers that the concept of “Europeans” defines for the first time the peoples of Europe fighting against an external enemy, the Muslims. Islam for us will always be like oil in water and like a graft that doesn’t work. If there is Islam in Europe, it’s an aberration, an anomaly.

    Furthermore, the issue of Muslims in Russia is different, because they are native peoples of Russia. On the other hand, we are subjected to an extremely violent Islamic/Arab/African colonisation.

    We don’t want that, we want historical continuity, as conceptualised by José Ortega y Gasset. Studies throughout Europe show people think there are too many immigrants, that Islam is a threat. For ex., in a study published last month, 64% of the French consider Islam is a threat to the French identity (https://www.ifop.com/wp-content/uplo...-resultats.pdf). According to the same study, 53% of the French consider that France is before anything else a people of white race and Christian religion.

    But you can always dream...
    Last edited by Laly; 01-06-2022 at 07:17 PM.

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    Zemmour is just another Jew pretending be a defender of Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    French people have no concept of ethno-nationalism, everyone can be french for them aslong they accept the French values and are french nationals.

    It doesnt work, obviously, but thats how they see it anyway.
    According to law that is the case, but French people don't necessarily think so. I remember Petalpusher said a lot of French people don't see non-White Frenchmen as "truly French".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laly View Post
    If there is Islam in Europe, it’s an aberration, an anomaly.
    Yes. Why not fight with islam itself instead of destabilizing and destroying muslim-majority countries? Another destroyed or unstabilized country means another tsunami of immigrants.

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    Looks like Zemmour splits the vote in a way that neither Him or LePen will reach the 2nd round of the presidential vote, so the people saying his whole purpose is to divide the right wing voting demographic seem to have good points, even tho I still havent made my mind on the guy.

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    The Zemmour question is much more complex than just a new "nationalist-populist" movement against "the Establishment", that is called by "mainstream media" as "far right", and that we see emerging in all "advanced democracies", like Trump, AFD, ... a sort of local French variant of this larger ideological movement in post-Cold War post-industrial post-9/11 West, the dialectical response to counter-balance the Multi-Kulti woke leftist-liberal progressive ideology.

    The issue is not what Zemmour says, he is probably sincerely a patriot; but what is around him : the re-alignment of the French "hard" right under the National-Zionist shield. The traditional French Jewish elite, that has been ruling the Left (since 1981 Mitterrand elections) and that promoted anti-racism (SOS Racisme, Touche pas à mon pote), mass immigration ("chances" for France, that's how they have been called, it has become nowadays a meme code-word by French rightists for not mentionning criminals of foreign background), that demonized original French far right, Front National of Jean-Marie Le Pen.

    Jean-Marie Le Pen was still traditionally both anti-immigration and antisemitic (and not especially anti-Islam), the real roots of the French far right comes from early 20th century-1930s ideological corpus of Action Française, Maurras, Barrès, and later in the 70s, Bardèche, the GRECE think tank of Alain De Benoist, Guillaume Faye, ... (all intellectual levels of knowledge and philosophical-political depth that are far above any American "alt-right' clowns or any grotesque populist leaders). Jean-Marie Le Pen combined both intellectual knowledge but with rhetorical art to appeal to the mass, the simple average working class people (that were already leaving the Communist parties).

    The French Jewish organized community, that is totally controlling the French superstructure (business, mass media, politics, academics, ...), has decided after the second Intifida, to change their alliances, and to follow the American Jewry shift towards Neo-Conservatism (hawkish pro-Israel and anti-Islam foreign policy and warmongers in the Middle East). In the case of France, the nationalist right was still not under control of the Jewish elite, and there is a large Muslim minority (that were considered as "chances" for France, and that should have been spoiled against evil colonial ethnic French). A good chunk of French Jewish elite decided to move from leftist-liberalism (like American Jews) and join the new Right against the now "barbarian antisemitic Muslim radicals living in our suburbs (banlieues)"; a 180 degree shift that occured around 2004 (with the Law against the Islamic Veil in schools and public offices, pushed by the Masonic lodges, named Grand-Orient in France). We can name some of them : Alain Finkielkraut, Alexandre Adler, Gilles-William Goldnadel, Eric Zemmour of course, Elisabeth Levy, ...

    This re-alignment of the French "hard right" pushed by the French Jewish organized community, needed first to eliminate the old "antisemitic" nationalist elements (Jean-Marie Le Pen ejected by his own daughter, Marine Le Pen, under the process called "Dédiabolisation" (un-demonization), which simply means : not talking anymore about Judeo-Masonic danger and focus only on bashing on Islam). Judeo-Masonry, International Zionism, are not the enemies anymore, but the narrative is completely inverted among French Nationalists (and same pattern in the West) : Israel is our model, see how they deal with those "crazy barbarian brown Muslims"; we should to the same, Netanyahu is our role model, ...

    (while the reality for an authentic Western nationalist is to identify with Palestinians : native population replaced by colonial foreigners)

    It has started first with Sarkozy in 2007, he used an identitarian rhetoric but once elected, turned back against the naive ethnic French voters, to push more forward globalist-capitalist agenda... (betrayal of European Constitution treatise, War against Kadhafi in Lybia in 2011, ...)

    Once completely cleaned, Marine Le Pen changed the name of the party (Rassemblement National today) and began to be accepted in the mass media, softening the ideology (turning the "hard right" just into a soft Right, and economically leftist...). But after poor performance of Marine Le Pen in French Presidential elections of 2017 (second-round debate was a catastrophe for her against Macron); the new emerging National-Zionist far right needed to push for a new hero and found Zemmour.

    Now there are huge tensions within the Jewish organized community, against the still slightly dominant leftist-liberal-globalist wing (Bernard-Henri Levy, Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Glucksmann) against the rising neo-nationalist neo-conservative pushing for Zemmour (the diasporan "Likud" in a sense).

    But many observators of the authentic patriotic ethnic French movement, believes it's all a little Jewish theater (a "Yiddish vaudeville" that were famous in 1920s New York) : the ultimate goal is to keep under control the growing nationalist-populist anger in France (and in other Western countries), by giving-conceiding some policies (slowing down a bit migration with border policies, redistribution of wealth, ...) ; but ultimately pushing the New World Order/Great Reset agenda (Big Banking-International Financial Capitalism-Multinational corporations, Mass Media, Big Pharma, Mass migration, destroying the native working-middle class through both ethno-cultural replacement and fiscal-economical pressure).

    The Masonic All-Seeing Eye triangle is always above and controlling both sides of the political spectrum.
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