How Much Portuguese is Brazil?

[Ouistreham]

Portugal is a small impoverished European country of 10 million inhabitants.
Portugal gave birth to a gigantic country called Brazil with about 220 million people. It's by and large a third-world nation but given its shear demographic weight it's becoming a major power on Earth (with an economy that is currently overtaking France or the UK).

So — this is a question to Portugueses and Brazilians —: what is the Portuguese DNA input in the Brazilian population? One quarter, less than half, less than the Italian share, about 1/3? I'd like to know.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

The Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics doesn't ask for ethnicity.

There was more Portuguese immigration in the 19th and 20th centuries than Italian. You just need to look at the immigration statistics, which do exist. So add Portuguese immigration from the modern era and consider the amount of immigration (an estimation) from the colonial era and you have more 'Portuguese DNA' than Italian.

[Tooting Carmen]

It's by and large a third-world nation but given its shear demographic weight it's becoming a major power on Earth

Yet despite that, Portuguese is still not an official language of international bodies like the UN, WTO or WHO. But to answer your question: maybe 40% of their DNA is Portuguese? The rest being a mix of non-Portuguese European, MENA, SSA and Amerindian (plus a very large East Asian population in the Southeast of the country).

[Latinus]

Let's say 90-95% of Brazilians have at least some degree of Portuguese ancestry, which differs in proportion by race and geographical origin.

Brazil is much more Portuguese than Italian. The colonial Portuguese + post-colonial Portuguese imput easily supplants Italian ancestry.

And even many "Italian-Brazilians" are heavily recent Portuguese/colonials.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Tendo em conta a premissa da questão, não se percebe a que propósito ou qual a relevância de enunciar que Portugal é atualmente um país pequeno e empobrecido, uma vez que o Brasil não foi fundado num passado recente mas sim num contexto histórico no qual Portugal economicamente não diferia significativamente do resto da Europa. Deduzo que o único propósito de iniciar a conversa nestes moldes seja o de escárnio ou de desprezo pelo país, apesar de ninguém negar que, sim, Portugal actualmente é um país pequeno com uma economia estagnada. Paralelamente, podíamos questionar também o porquê de um dos maiores e mais prestigiosos países da Europa não ter dado ao mundo nenhuma potência equiparável ao Brasil. Fica o repto.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Its a very portuguese country

Its more portuguese than USA is english, I think only Uruguay can be more spanish and Australia more english than Brazil is portuguese.

I would say blacks can be 35% portuguese
Maybe Pardos can be 55-60% portuguese
Maybe Whites are also 60-65% portuguese too

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Portugal is a small impoverished European country of 10 million inhabitants.
Portugal gave birth to a gigantic country called Brazil with about 220 million people. It's by and large a third-world nation but given its shear demographic weight it's becoming a major power on Earth (with an economy that is currently overtaking France or the UK).

So — this is a question to Portugueses and Brazilians —: what is the Portuguese DNA input in the Brazilian population? One quarter, less than half, less than the Italian share, about 1/3? I'd like to know.

Brazil overtaked UK in 2011, today Brazil is only becoming more and more distant of UK, Brazil is always in deep crisis these years.

[Alexandro]

Well, the thing is that Portuguese in actuality are just Europeans that by chance speak Brazilian.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

The Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics doesn't ask for ethnicity.

There was more Portuguese immigration in the 19th and 20th centuries than Italian. You just need to look at the immigration statistics, which do exist. So add Portuguese immigration from the modern era and consider the amount of immigration (an estimation) from the colonial era and you have more 'Portuguese DNA' than Italian.

I think Brazil asks about ethnicity, but the 87.5% of white brazilians answer they are brazilians of brazilian ancestry if I remember.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

The Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics doesn't ask for ethnicity.

There was more Portuguese immigration in the 19th and 20th centuries than Italian. You just need to look at the immigration statistics, which do exist. So add Portuguese immigration from the modern era and consider the amount of immigration (an estimation) from the colonial era and you have more 'Portuguese DNA' than Italian.

Yes, but about that... consider most italians arrived between 1880 and 1915 and portugueses many arrived, not sure if most, but many arrived between 1950 and 1970 when Brazil had 60-90 milion people, so their impact was not that big. At the same time the italians had already multiplicated their numbers by milions, especially the venetians that populated Brazil's countryside. The same about german brazilian that arrived between 1840 and 1890. Poles also between 1880 and 1900. That said, my answer to the thread was Brazil is a very Portuguese from blacks to whites, but its mostly because of the 750.000 colonials that were almost 3/4 milion whites in the XIX century.